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danielluft 11th Oct 2013 21:52

VIP handling at LHR
 
Just heard that Dnata are starting a Vip Handling service at Heathrow:ok:

Not sure how Signature Flight support will cope with the competition!:ugh:

TOWTEAMBASE 11th Oct 2013 22:15

VIP handling at LHR
 
Interesting, seeing as they are closing an operation at LHR due downturn in business and tupe their staff to the company that took it !

ksjc 12th Oct 2013 01:03

Any downturn at LHR likely due to traffic heading to Farnborough and TAG. Don't know why anyone would want to go anywhere else.

Tray Surfer 12th Oct 2013 10:39

I suppose there will always be a need for some form of VIP handling at LHR, unless, and I apologise as I don't know, FAB and other smaller operations, can handle the VIP wide body aircraft from the gulf and the odd other one from elsewhere?

Richard101 12th Oct 2013 11:01

I suspect most VIP Airliners would avoid Heathrow given their landing and parking charges and try to use Stansted etc instead. The only reason I can see why anybody would want to fly into Heathrow is if the passenger(s) are connecting to (or from) a commercial flight.

danielluft 13th Oct 2013 07:12

Towteambase

Are you talking about Dnata or Signature tupe staff?

air pig 16th Oct 2013 19:23

Farnbrough as one poster has said or Rizon at Biggin Hill or Northolt if you get in, far better than LHR

pax britanica 16th Oct 2013 20:49

But if you are a Gulf royal with your London country home close by Ascot racecourse then LHR is the place to go through as you are home and hosed so to speak in about 25 minutes. FAB cannot take anything bigger than 737 according to local agreements except at 'show time'

mutt 17th Oct 2013 02:28


I suspect most VIP Airliners would avoid Heathrow given their landing and parking charges and try to use Stansted etc instead.
If you can afford a corporate airliner, do you really need to worry about landing charges?

Its all about landing close to home. Although the last 10 landing requests that i have seen were all rejected and aircraft ended up in Stansted.

Mutt

Richard101 18th Oct 2013 13:56


Do you really need to worry about landing charges?

-Well yes I do, they maybe wealthy but they are not stupid. Its a cost benefit analysis to them, bearing in mind they have helicopters and schedule flexibility is important to them. I believe they would avoid Heathrow if parking costs are more than the Helicopter transfers and/or the alternative airports offers greater flexibility to their schedules. I remember a particular Falcon 900 that would fly from London to Manchester just for the passenger to get on his Airliner.

G-ARZG 18th Oct 2013 16:20

Now I may be going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing DNATA have done their homework on this ???

jbflier 18th Oct 2013 18:19

I would Imagine DNATA have done their homework, they look like a big company at Heathrow.

Be interesting to see what they can offer over any competitors there?

I think there must be a need for a VIP operation at Heathrow for the Heads of state, VIP and very wealthy that travel.

Good luck to them.

TOWTEAMBASE 21st Oct 2013 20:12

VIP handling at LHR
 
Dnata to Servisair

Spitfire boy 22nd Oct 2013 07:41

Where do VIP passengers clear customs at LHR now? If not at VIP terminal and a need to go somewhere central I can see this also deterring flights.

PPE 22nd Oct 2013 17:15


Although the last 10 landing requests that i have seen were all rejected
What is the reason for so many rejections. Is it limited parking space? Or no one to handle them?

JetPark 24th Oct 2013 13:54

VIP LHR
 
Though it has become increasingly difficult to access LHR due to slot restrictions (BAA controlled to protect resilience) when I am able to get in there I will stick with Signature thanks. I use them across the network and nobody comes close to their standards. The last they will be worrying about is competition, they have it at several of their locations in Europe. I have been in contact with senior management and they are working hard to look after the future of business avition under testing circumstances. I have been in this business a long time and always knew LHR would become tougher to get into. Good luck to anyone who would want to be in the FBO business there!

Premier1989 26th Oct 2013 22:53

VIP LHR
 
From past experience, arrival procedure is usually done at the Heathrow Royal Suite near T4 or the Windsor Suite in T5. Same with departures (e.g. screening of pax). Signature used to have a lounge but closed it down and went into bed with the BAA to collectively manage the GA side at LHR.

DNATA starting at LHR I don't think will offer any competition. If anything, I think it will close Signature down and I don't think they would put up a fight. Signature might as well concentrate on redeveloping their LTN operation - with a new FBO and Hangar due for completion by Q4/2014, plus the heavy slot restrictions, congested airport and restricted parking at LHR...it seems like a winner to me!

mutt 27th Oct 2013 06:40


What is the reason for so many rejections.
No SLOTS available, so it will be pretty hard for a corporate handling agent to make money if their customers cannot access the airport.

Heathrowchap 30th Oct 2013 12:21

Slots Ive heard are returning slowly! Winter looks a lot better supposedly

Dnata are apparently officially up and running from the 1ST of November

Dnata processed their first flight I hear on monday and apparently went very well

Good luck to dnata I say im sure they will be very succesful :ok: :D

PPE 30th Oct 2013 19:05

So Dnata carry out the handling of all VIP aircraft, is that correct.? Or do they work alongside Signature? Where does the windsor suite fit into all of this,if at all?sorry just wondered who does what and how it all works at LHR now


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