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bangna 10th Sep 2013 12:07

Mr Formula One Ecclestone sells his new G650
 
Bernie sells his G650 to Thai Businessman for $72 million

It is a 8 pax aircraft. The aft section is a bedroom with big double bed :D:rolleyes:

dc9-32 10th Sep 2013 15:04

Maybe he should have researched the performance before buying it :sad:

CaptainProp 10th Sep 2013 15:08


Although unconfirmed, it’s believed Bernie’s decision to offload the Gulfstream stems from the G650′s inability to depart fully loaded from airports close to the locations where he owns homes.
Ah, that's what happens when you make sure you are well advised on your new aircraft acquisition! :E

This industry is full of people with money and sales people and brokers that don't care if they sell you the wrong product, all they care about is that they sell. Too bad people never seem to learn from other peoples mistakes either.

CP

bangna 10th Sep 2013 15:54

8 pax for 72M :D :D :D why have a G650? :ugh:
Ecclestone made $$$$$

bangna 10th Sep 2013 16:13


Too bad people never seem to learn from other peoples mistakes either.
so right. equals 9M a pax seat :rolleyes:
Anyone know pilot salary for G650?

doubleu-anker 10th Sep 2013 16:33

Surely he must have pilots etc., on his payroll that could have advised him what exactly he was buying.

SpringHeeledJack 10th Sep 2013 17:45

Might he have made a tidy profit reselling a much desired status aircraft with a long waiting list ? The purchaser has jumped the line and will be one of the few in asia with bragging rights and it's cost him a premium to do so. I'd be very suprised if BE was in the dark as to the capabilities/restrictions of the G650, he's a canny fellow and knows how to turn a penny twice.

Yellow & Blue Baron 10th Sep 2013 19:13

So what would have been the right aircraft than can take the passengers he wants with the fuel he needs to the places he wants to go from the presumably short runways he uses?

Doodlebug 10th Sep 2013 19:24

Obviously we'd need details about the runways and missions that the 650 allegedly can't cope with, but I struggle to believe that it cannot compete with, or better, the GLEX, which will happily hoick out of KTEBs shorter runway and cross the pond into Eastern Europe, for example.

The man simply saw an opportunity to make top dollar, methinks.

Kelly Hopper 10th Sep 2013 19:27

He bought 2! One to sell, one to keep?

Photoburst 10th Sep 2013 19:33

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3723/9...2142a51a_b.jpg
G650 G-OMRE "Go Mr E"

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/9...7b035582_b.jpg
The aircraft is named "Mystery"

FCS_TEST 10th Sep 2013 19:34

Well I believe that one couldnt make it at Gstaad ( not like his 7X) !:ok:

Yellow & Blue Baron 10th Sep 2013 19:44

G650 N880MD is currently up for sale, apparently UK based also.

http://gulfstreams.zenfolio.com/img/...19589756-3.jpg

PURPLE PITOT 10th Sep 2013 20:02

As a GLEX driver, all i can say is the 650 is prettier than the 550:ok:

silverknapper 10th Sep 2013 20:40

Mr baron
The answer to your question is in the background of the bottom picture in post 11. Which he owns.

He did not buy this in error. Quite comical that people think he did. But the decent profit on list is a big clue!!!

Yellow & Blue Baron 10th Sep 2013 21:22

silverknapper thank you.

Can you explain the profit on list if you dont mind.

I thought that as soon as an aircraft is used it devalues in price, at least to some degree and as I can see there are is more than one G650 for sale at the moment.

So are there two G650's involved, if not then why is he selling?

tuna hp 10th Sep 2013 21:37

1: If he had an early delivery slot, he actually could have made money on this transaction. The original price on the green plane was I believe $58.5M or $59.5M but has since gone to over $70M in response to the demand and how far ahead available delivery slots are.

2: This is an early example in the production run, planes are always overweight early in the production run and improve over time. Maybe he was well informed about the marketed capabilities of the G650 but over-optimistic about what they'd be able to achieve by the time his delivery spot was reached. Maybe he wants to wait for a later model that will better conform to the marketed specs.

3: Shouldn't the G650, at its marketed specs, be able to get out with more range than any 7X or F900? 7000nm from a 5,900' field vs I believe ~5700nm from a 5600' field for the 7X. I don't see how there's any plane available that could leave any airfield with more range and passengers than the G650 as it is marketed.

Trim Stab 10th Sep 2013 21:46

Bernie is probably going to jail in the near future, and may also face substantial law suits. He and his family have been selling assets in countries that have legal systems that might be unfavourable to them, eg UK.

Yellow & Blue Baron 10th Sep 2013 22:01

tuna hp thank you for this explanation.

I thought when you ordered a new aircraft you pay a deposit and then the balance on completion. You are saying that the final sale price is confirmed when the buyer pays his deposit I guess and in which case I understand how he makes a profit if the company increases the price.

Why are planes made early in production heavier?

Trim Stab, what reason will this man be going to jail for and will it affect F1 racing or is there somebody else running it?

Tray Surfer 10th Sep 2013 22:18

Why would you have the reg up the vertical like that? Looks horrible...


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