Interesting... Thank you for that Mach Tuck :ok:

AFT Galley
 

Dear Gents If I could possibly add a few things etc to this conversation. One Thing is Key to this is which particular Gulfstream are you referring too etc?

The GIV and G450 mainly are offered with AFT Galleys, Forward galleys are not the the normal and if its a GIV a lot of the radio rack will take up essential space, however haven said that I have seen some great G450 with a partial galley in the front and one in the back.

GV-G550 as its a long range aircraft depends on your client etc.

Charter arrangement
(Forward Galley has great advantages in the fact that the Crew can give privacy to the clients) and if there is a Fwd Lav and crew rest or work station this is a fantastic option. I would advise though to not have a full sink vanity unity takes up too much room.

If its a Private client its basically up to them what they prefer but a forward galley does work well.

NJE and NJA opted for AFT galleys on their GV-G550 fleet and I think they found it often difficult on long range flights as the FA was constantly in the Cabin. The other thing is the noise created when food is being prepared.

It would be interesting to see on their new globals what they opted for

Couldn't happen, only happens on Bombardier planes. :p. And, only Bombardier planes go tech.

NetJets took the only layout offered--forward. But they did extend it, 5 inches, I believe.

GF

galaxy flyer... Not a Bombardier fan then? ;)

And, as for an extra 5 inches... Sometimes can make all the difference... :D

No, I am a Bombardier fan, it's FrankR that isn't.

GF

Well, that makes two of us galaxy flyer... :ok:

The best airplane is always the one you're being paid to fly! Everything else is rather inconsequential...

FR

:O

This is not the only part of the 550's cabin which can be a dark cave:

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PB :ok:

On all Gulfstreams, G2 through 550 the outflow valve is in the front, and all smells from nice to nasty pass through the cabin from the rear galley and toilet, on the way out.
The DU fans pull the air into cockpit.....fart in the galley and within 30 seconds there are screams of disaproval from the flight deck.......ask me how I know this.:O
Tony

I hope the galley and toilet in the pictures above look better in real life!!

An interesting consideration Tony Mabelis!

Do you suppose cabin attendants have a "fart contingency plan" - such as dousing themselves with copious amounts of perfume and then walking through the cabin in an effort to control any unwelcome odours they may unintentionally have permitted to escape, especially say, after overnighting in Bombay?

Sounds like a good plan to me!!
Nobody seems to have appreciated the obvious on this thread, seems to show a certain lack of practical Gulfstream operation to me! Too much waffle and not enough farting.
Tony

Rear Galley
 

perhaps a moot point, but as a broker, we are wary of aircraft on the charter market with a rear galley. The inflight service can disturb the passenger as well as that area of the cabin usually being used for sleeping. It is a fact that we have had clients whom have flown on rear galley Gulfstreams and have made negative comments.

SB

Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate it.

I understand your point but from what I have read on this thread rear galleys are standard fit on the LRG's (long range Gulfstreams) the 500, 550 and 650. Is this so?

From researching and looking at the Gulfstream website, it is offered as an option, not as a standard.

There is no standard option. When you buy the plane you have 6 configurations to choose from. 3 are aft galleys and 3 are forward galleys.

J

Normally, a rear galley without a rear service door, either on Biz Jets or Airlines is just a pain in the ass.
All catering needs to go thru the cabin to reach the rear galley, on some Biz Jets you may bypass that and route everything to the usual small(Bizjets, except CL850) cargo compartment.
Servicing the rear galley - much harder then a fwd one

Pax comfort : Same. Think being in your pax shoes, would you really like someone all the time in the cabin with you. Privacy is much easier to obtain if the galley is up front.

Crew comfort: True, as a flight deck member I would not mind if the FA is (some of them :E) most of the flight at the other end of the aircraft trapped. Maybe the only plus point for me opting for a rear galley.

Crew comfort V.2: As mentioned already, it might get tricky to bring food and drinks fwd during a night long rangeflight with sleeping pax.

Not to mention the stains you create to get all the waste out using a beautiful light coloured cabin :).

I think rear galleys are a nice thing to ADD on superheavy Biz Jets(BBJ+), below that it's just a wrong turn taken from the producer.

Smelly aft LAV
 

There is an option for an extractor fan in the aft lav.

BUT not certain of the routing, think it goes out via the "vac" extraction system.

I place a towel at the base of the lav door, and encourage the aroma to travel the short route.

Remember the knee holes for the stand up users.

glf

I am on the side of the forward galley as well. When we (well actually the owner) were deciding between the G-IV-SP and Falcon 900EX we took long demonstration flights in both; KPWA-EGGW-KASE* and KASE-TNCM-KHOU.

After these and other demo flights the boss decided that having a forward galley was going to be the way either aircraft would ordered. The basic reason was, as many here have posted, he did not like either the FA or the pilots waking through the cabin when he was trying to sleep. When he was not sleeping, during daylight flights he had no issue with the crew going back to galley.

He finally settled on the 900EX, primarily due to the better performance out of Aspen, than the G-IV-SP.


* A technical stop was require in both aircraft in KBGR for customs and fuel, on the EGGW-KASE segement.

Never has so much waffle been written by so many.....

Fact is Gulfstream have to place the galley at the back to save the loss of two windows in the cabin (hidden by the galley and place the pax further from the noise (engines). (It is dark - your pics are clever photography)

The Crew are self-contained in the forward galley with the toilet all in one section.

As for smells I think the G550 crew toilet is likely to be more smelly after a Bombay curry. No rest there.... come on wake up smell the coffee.

AND the person who is important is the owner - not the F/A wanting to store food in cabin which cant be open at 450FL or above either.

Resale is also important - forward galleys are sort after, aft are not.

Remember the G550 is still a re-engine G1 which had propellers I recall. Check the Type Certificate if you want.