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500 above 26th Nov 2012 07:31


I mean seriously...the more some of you talk you would think you guys are right up against it when you fly that the right seater is there to save the day every time you go up.
One word - incapacitation.

Czech pilot dies during flight; plane lands safely | Fox News

60-year-old Continental pilot dies in flight - Travel - News | NBC News

Qatar Airways pilot who died during flight was Indian | GulfNews.com

Pilot dies of heart attack mid-flight - Yahoo!7 News

BBC NEWS | UK | England | Manchester | Co-pilot dies during plane flight

Quite a few poor souls under 50 in that mix.

His dudeness 26th Nov 2012 07:50


I'm not suprised that the iphone crashed, it's rubbish, the computer that i'm typing this on has been running for over 4 years with no crashes and only having to reboot for updates, so the argument against computers assisting would have been valid in the days of windows 95-vista, but a modern pc running a linux derived OS with good software can run for years and with the size of systems now it's possible to have 2 systems running in space smaller than a hard back book so there is no reason for not having a back up in case of hardware failure.
Wellwellwell, at least Honeywell have not figured out to make an avionic suite that does everything they advertised it would on a 2007 Sovereign.
The real issue here seems to be software.
But I´m sure Fatmanmedia LLC. could develop that way better than that small local radio shop Honeywell.

fatmanmedia 26th Nov 2012 07:54

simple solution to that is to design the pilot out of the cockpit, and make it completely automated or controlled from the ground.

fats

500 above 26th Nov 2012 11:53

This is a Bizjet forum. The bosses/pax generally like to see a couple of pilots. Anyway, they'd have to carry their own bags and learn how to pack a hold pretty good! It'll never happen. Btw, did you hear about the recent UAV crash? Piloting aircraft from the ground would not alleviate crashing.

500 above 26th Nov 2012 12:17

Are you not advocating two crew f/d's here?


Sillypeoples

Join Date: May 2012
Location: Earth
Posts: 82
So if human factors is the big reason why CRM was implemented...why not put two ten thousand hour pilots in the cockpit? Certainly no high time FO is going to let the idiot in the left seat fly him into a mountain.

Oh, that's right...there is a pilot shortage....
From here

http://www.pprune.org/safety-crm-qa-...ml#post7179203

Strange, after this comment here:


That said, if everyone started flying planes and people started dropping dead in the aircraft...is that any worse then the hundreds of thousands of auto deaths every year?

Pace 26th Nov 2012 12:33

Fatmanmedia

You saw the film Aeroplane ? A good example of how unreliable the autopilot is!
The one in that film deflated and could only reinflate when a pretty stewardess blew it up again.
Instead of a first officer you would have to employ a pretty stewardess to get things working :ok:
Don't trust technology it has a habit of not working when you need it

Pace

aerobat77 26th Nov 2012 13:00


when a pretty stewardess blew it up again
and now the big question : is this or the flying by itself MORE dream catcher for the most here ? :E

nice posting pace !


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