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His dudeness 23rd Jan 2012 10:10

India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Sri Lanka...
 
Hello,

got to fly UAAA-VIDP-VGHS-WIII or WIHH,-VCBI-FSIA-HTDA or WIII-VRMM-HTDA in a few weeks.

Any info is welcome. Have not been in that part of the world yet.

thx

h_d

VIKING9 23rd Jan 2012 10:25

Nothing out of the ordinary except FSIA will no doubt tell you to bring a tow bar. They only have bars for B737, B747, B757, B767, B777 and A330, A319.

Landing permits easy at all locations and again, with FSIA, they will want you to transmit the permit number by HF prior to entering their FIR. Your ops should give you the HF frequency.

Usual health precautions apply for these destinations.

CaptainProp 23rd Jan 2012 10:48

HD you have PM.


Your ops should give you the HF frequency.
Or you use your charts to find frequency! :ok: :}

CP

Klimax 23rd Jan 2012 11:45

Awesome.. Used to fly to most of those aerodromes, but unfortunately forgot most of the relevant stuff.. Sorry. Just wishing you a great trip into the wilderness. Enjoy.:ok:

hawker750 23rd Jan 2012 12:04

Hi
Great trip out east. What in?
Only recomendation I can give is go to WIHH Jakarta Halim not WIII. Close to town and geared up for GA. also stay in the Le Meridien Hotel and give all the lovely staff there my best wishes. (was there for 5 weeks during Sunami relief)
Take load of $$ cash
If your shiney new aircraft breaks down give me a call for an old Hawker:D

international hog driver 23rd Jan 2012 12:16

VRMM stay at Bandos, book it via the agent as in a few weeks it will still be high season.

INNflight 24th Jan 2012 09:17

Get the Indian permit(s) well in advance for your schedule and advise your pax that last-minute changes (last-min I mean anything within 3-5 business days before the flight) may or may not be possible with the Indian DGCA.

Depending on who you use for the permits the time getting and / or revising them can vary considerably.

A good estimate is 5 business days for Indian landing permits and 3 for overflight - don't count on it though.... bureaucracy deluxe!!!!

Have a safe trip!

His dudeness 24th Jan 2012 11:38

Thanks for the input so far guys.

Keep it coming.

h_d

EMB170 25th Jan 2012 00:41

VIDP at time of year, watch out for FOG, it gets really bad.
Bandos is good
have a nice time

His dudeness 2nd Feb 2012 18:42

I was just told by a travel agency lady that we require crew visa for a 4 hrs gnd stay in VIDP (where we would not leave the airplane if not required to)

Can anyone confirm this? Sounds....silly?

CaptainProp 2nd Feb 2012 21:55

Its India, of course its silly. Yes, you need visa.

mutt 3rd Feb 2012 04:34

Slight drift...... does anyone know if the Indian HF operators are actual controllers or "radio operators"? Either way i would love to know why they want aircraft to make position report calls each 10 minutes! (Calls actually at reporting points, but works out to be 10 mins or so apart).

Used VCBI earlier in the week, nice area, good ATC, easy approach, excellent ground services, less than 30 mins for each turn around, and the passengers didnt have to get off to clear immigration. (Unlike the UK). From there to Indonesia was about 4 hours with excellent ATC along the way, even if some of it was HF. Indonesia itself, or at least the airport we landed in, was a pain, took about 90 minutes to stamp crew passports. But we were told that WIII was much better, or even Halim.

Mutt

avind 3rd Feb 2012 06:56

HD,

In case you are not getting off the aircraft and just transiting, No Visa required. In case of a night halt the crew (of most nationalities) can be provided a 72 hrs visa at the airport.

Lurcherman 3rd Feb 2012 08:23

Visas
 
Not all airports will provide transit visas. Ahmadabad, Calcutta, New Delhi, hydrabad and Bangalore I understand will. Others such as Nagpur will not.Still struggling with Embassy for our transit visa. Clearance from DGCA required to accompany application!

avind 3rd Feb 2012 08:42

Yes Lurcherman,

The post was for Delhi. Any airports in Maharashtra namely Mumbai, Nagpur, Pune do not. All other airports accross the country do it.

His dudeness 3rd Feb 2012 08:54

@ all : thanks.

We will land, refuel, pay and get off hopefully within 0345hrs.

So we try our luck without visa and if they are required weŽll try to get them there.

Life could be so easy....:ugh:

CaptainProp 3rd Feb 2012 10:00


Not all airports will provide transit visas.
As far as I know, this is not possible and anyway not advisable to count on! In my experience, and that of my previous operator (that regularly operate in and out of India), you never go to India without a valid visa. Ever.
You get info from someone that this or that is ok, then you get there "No no this is not possible. Now you have to pay USD 10K and and and and...."

From Indian Gov. visa website (http://indianvisaonline.gov.in/visa/):


All foreign nationals entering India are required to possess a valid international travel document in the form of a national passport with a valid visa obtained from an Indian Mission or Post abroad. The Indian visa is issued under Government of India’s Foreigners Act.
Remember, its your responsibility, you are the one who will stand there on the day telling clients and company "Sorry, we are stuck because I did not have the required visa".

CaptainProp 3rd Feb 2012 10:09

Just read avind's post. Could be that he/she is correct.
If I was in your shoes HD I would make sure I find some sort of official document proving this statement before I leave without a visa. If you are not sure how/where to get the visa and how long it will take I would get in touch with a visa agency.

Here are two...

VALS

http://GlobalVisas/

His dudeness 3rd Feb 2012 11:45

Well, IŽd try to get the visa, BUT, apparently they require the Indian CAA permit before they issue one. Now that one is on request, however the Indian CAA is apparently not the quickest around. So, as the date lurches closer and closer I find myself in a Catch 22.

Thanks for the heads up every one, I will try to get the visa for us...

Lurcherman 3rd Feb 2012 12:52

Visa
 
The Embassy had my (2nd) passport for a month before returning it with no visa.
"Referring my application to appropriate authority"
Embassy then asked for DGCA clearance.
Sent it last week but have had no acknowledgement that they have received it nor whether they are dealing with it.
Going through Ahmadabad and getting temporary landing permit worked last time but allow 3hrs plus delay and $1200.
If anyone knows how to speed up the process please let me know.


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