Because some people seem to think (whether they are involved or not) they have a right to know everything and throw accusations of secrecy and chicanery if they are deprived of that luxury.
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Dawdler, I think you miss the point, Truth Prevails is trying to get his (companies) side of the story across, its obvious that his company is yet another one of Weavers victims. By publishing the pilots details he has shown transparency and is trying hard to show they are not hiding things to protect Weaver.
Had Truth Prevails not made his earlier posts then people would not have raised the questions which have been asked. Now if it turned up that the named pilot knew nothing of all of this - or Weaver, then that would paint things in a very different light. |
Who ARE these guys?
I don't understand the mystery of what the company is if it is not Sky Ferry. It may add to the intrigue here, but really seems also to be muddying the water.
No one likes to admit they got cheated, but at this point, I would be skeptical of any company that could be out of the UK that might be SkyFerry in disguise. I am probably just being dense and missing something in the thread that would clear all this up. Please help me along here... and not out of the thread, its just too juicy. Just my 50 cents worth... |
Which airport ?
and the reason for being topic of conversation ? |
An email from back in April...
To: d******@*********.co.uk
From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:19:05 +0000 David: Please see my web page at: www.mlgventures.com I never heard of Rob Weaver, and have been flying Hawkers and Citations since 1990 after I left EAL. My only phone is my cell @ 8312124639. BTW, where are you located? Mark Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile The post claiming that Mark (by Truth Prevails) was the pilot, was dated 7th April 19.25 - after Mark had said HE HAD NEVER HEARD OF ROB WEAVER If there are any curious parties (for example Law enforcement agancies) who want to track the origins of Marks message, I have copied the header information below: I have excluded my own email details so as not to possibly help Weaver. X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTE7YT0xO0Q9MDtTQ0w9MA== X-Message-Status: n X-SID-PRA: [email protected] X-SID-Result: Pass X-AUTH-Result: PASS X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jFnomcRAmA4k4GbTU67i75q327mcSw0fhDkAkgjHJuq+WmXwrQo w57bY+TioL45XAZ2ec7iKDNLMWFnMF1K4sUy743fOmc14qYWaiWVG+fq4Q== Received: from mail-iw0-f180.google.com ([209.85.214.180]) by bay0-mc3-f35.Bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:19:12 -0700 Received: by iwn6 with SMTP id 6so4544226iwn.11 for <*************>; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:19:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:reply-to :x-priority:references:in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to :from:date:content-type:mime-version; bh=QjsfKPiTcwR/B/d3gpuWM3Zjbdftr5cFPeCql1P5jT0=; b=Sr6xrR3c5tkPOHpbftCu8fYfk9x1LJh5nz76mXuoXboI572PAA1KOSSR1O uB7rNu/y u5A6xEEz6el8y91w3jundAgfsOhqUsoI0CIRBrpHTjc5IIblOIJWPTC7x/W0xaXDDj/V aeLZ08svfhXkETrl3Aefbq7njRGpQs8De0L/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; b=I8BKsrhbFh5nVZExy1OtSF1zSV6PIeNr0qyiyYZPIdmInbXFXDdmBxgzy3 9z+wY3vM xbIXa7CGD/3IY5RIo8/YLIFvXCXdkxlihbv23KzpBMxHSrT1pXYCP6HiZDHXBOc6hoyH yi1oRopIP9LXNLE4dWrBrXEw7z/lXeeOe9Uz4= Received: by 10.231.65.209 with SMTP id k17mr1239759ibi.127.1302203952021; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from bda347.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (bda-67-223-68-120.bise.na.blackberry.com [67.223.68.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e9sm1321881ibb.32.2011.04.07.12.19.10 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:19:10 -0700 (PDT) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:2083868199 Message-ID:<2083868199-1302203948-cardhu_decombo....on.blackberry> Reply-To: [email protected] X-Priority: Normal References: <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal Subject: Citation type To: **************** From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:19:05 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part28033-boundary-665008445-554542527" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2011 19:19:12.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD8AE800:01CBF558] |
Q. Is he now caught ? A. All depending how you look at it.
At the moment, he is still at large while developments continue. In actual fact, it is thought that he is departing Birmingham Airport tomorrow scheduled to a European destination for a few days, so, caught no, marked, yes. And he loves a bounty ;) |
Inflatable Autopilot
Sounds like a scene of the old classic movie "Airplane".
Leslie Nielsen: "I just came in to say: Good luck, we are all counting on you!" :ok: |
Refresh my memory, didn't the originator of the Ferry and the Insurance company come on this or the other thread thread and confirm that this Mark character was the PIC on the ill fated ferry flight?
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I'm sure Weavers parents are really glad of modern autopilots, they are so good that not only have they helped Weaver stay alive for so long but they are now so simple that they would even allow a proverbial one eyed, spotty ginger fat geek to do a difficult flight.
One day they will advance to the point that they can do fuel and endurance calculations without the need for a qualified pilot (for the journey) to cross check them. Maybe this was the real crew on the Seneca V flight - I guess we will all never know |
Cldrv - no. WEAVER claimed that he was, Why would Mark clearly state he never knew weaver.............
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According to the excerpt from the originator:
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ml#post6356717 Mark Gustavson was the PIC, not Weaver, as supposedly taken from the accident report: MARK LEROY GUSTAVSON Address Street 7960 SOQUEL DR STE B109City APTOS State CACounty SANTA CRUZZip Code 95003-3999Country USA All the relevant paperwork on this accident was completed by Rob Weaver and accepted as such by the insurers, as it would seem we are now deemed to be withholding the Pilot's identity I have been given full permission to disclose this information and his details will be on the footer of this post. The facts remain that he wasn't employed by us and that we haven't until now divulged his details because we thought those who needed to know already did (i.e. The Police etc ) As Mr. Gustavson is on the accident report he is either worried about now having an accident on his record or he has other ulterior motives for now denying his involvement. Either way, it all smells a little fishy and I for one would not trust Mr. Gustavson with my airplane if I was ever looking for a ferry pilot, or for that matter a freelance pilot on one of the other aircraft he is supposedly rated on. |
My guess is that Mark Gustavson is as genuine as his CV states.
It is understood that Mark does not know a Robert Weaver. It is further understood that Mark has not even set eyes on N344SE. Whilst I accept that Weavers account of events does have a Cod stench to it, doesn't virtually all his dealings have the same traits. I guess we now have victims who do not even know that they are victims. |
Mark now has an accident on his record, that may well make him expensive to insure and fairly unemployable as a freelancer or ferry pilot. IF he was not the PIC, he'd better take steps to clear his name. IF he was the PIC he may well use the Weaver saga as an excuse for his record.
I still think there is something fishy here. The accident happened quite a while ago, why hasn't Mark taken steps to rectify this? |
Repost from here: http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ml#post6644107
As for trashing a Seneca, far from it, I have never been PIC in a aircraft that has been damaged or been involved in a incident. Yet: The Ferry Flight of N344SE was given to Skyferry in a time when Rob Weaver was struggling for business, sadly his track record wasn't known to us at that time or hadn't evolved to the levels it has hit now. We were given what seemed to be a valid set of qualifications in the resume we saw. Now whilst we concede to having been caught out by Rob Weaver and that is something that we are not proud of, it was also a very expensive catching out for us. As a Company we were very supportive of Rob Weaver after the accident and were pleased that both himself and his passenger were unscathed, again had we known what was going to transpire from the accident it would have been a different ballgame, Rob was employed as the Ferry Pilot and he took along a retired Airline captain to savour the experience, the retired airline captain wasn't in any way employed by us to fly N344SE but we are mighty glad he was there to try to save the Seneca from being a total write off. [...] we made it 100% clear that the clients insurance was for Rob Weaver to be P1 at all times NB. MG doesnt appear to be a retired airline pilot. Weaver's stories just don't add up, just like his 'experiance'. |
How I wonder was Mr Weaver employed to ferry the aircraft on a trans-Atlantic journey, when he didn't appear to have IR for twin engine aircraft? So is this his first deception with regard to this job?
Given that he was in fact handed the job and named as P1 by the company employing him, but took along a more experienced colleague to actually carry out the flight, would the insurance still be vaild? Could this be his second deception with regard to this job? The person named by Mr Weaver as the "passenger along for the ride" denies being aboard the aircraft and also denies knowing Mr Weaver. Could this be his third deception with regard to this job? If I remember correctly, even Mr Weaver at one point denied being aboard the aircraft and threatened legal action against anyone who might suggest that he was. So this would appear to be a fourth deception with regard to this job. So the above begs the following questions (at least): a) Who was aboard the aircraft when it crashed (sorry "landed") off-piste. b) Who was PIC? c) Who took remedial action to mitigate the effects of the situation in which they found themselves? d) Who did the fuel calculations? e) Who was responsible for the "incident" bearing in mind that there has been no subsequent report of a "blown cylinder" or any other significant engine problem. f) Why could not a twin engine aeroplane maintain a straight and level flight on one engine, should the other have failed. I am sorry if these questions appear simple and the answers obvious and my assumptions above completely wrong, but there does seem to be some conflicting information given on this thread. Or have I got several ferries mixed up here? One more question, in the event of a aircraft being disabled in the fashion described, who stands the loss? The owner? The commissioning company? The pilot? Further, has the claim been settled? |
dawdler, i would hazard a guess that the claim has been settled, which is why no one really wants to reopen this can of worms.
he didn't appear to have IR for twin engine aircraft? So is this his first deception with regard to this job? Given that he was in fact handed the job and named as P1 by the company employing him, but took along a more experienced colleague to actually carry out the flight, would the insurance still be vaild? Could this be his second deception with regard to this job? a) Who was aboard the aircraft when it crashed (sorry "landed") off-piste. b) Who was PIC? c) Who took remedial action to mitigate the effects of the situation in which they found themselves? d) Who did the fuel calculations? e) Who was responsible for the "incident" bearing in mind that there has been no subsequent report of a "blown cylinder" or any other significant engine problem. f) Why could not a twin engine aeroplane maintain a straight and level flight on one engine, should the other have failed. |
I normally reside on the Rotorhead or Mil boards, but due to a couple down days due fog, got reading this thread to pass the time. Oh my goodness, what a character this chap seems to be :eek: and quite the soap opera. I hope you guys/gals who lost money or time with this Walt get back what is owed.
It aso worries me that this pillock is in our airspace occasionally, thank goodness most of my days are low level ops.....The flight plan for the Greenland prang done on Flight sim really caught my attention, because I'm pretty certain this individual was passing through Quebec not so long ago and I met him. He was in for fuel and being an Expat Brit, noticed the accent, so went over for a chat. It dawned on me through conversation that this guy had absolutely no clue, and the flight planning was none existant. Us guys here in Canuckland take flight planning very seriously due to the vastness, wilderness, weather etc. I was very concerned and mentioned it to ATC when I took off.The a/c was still there when I got back from a 3 hour flight, but no sign of crew and ATC were closed for day. Pretty sure it was this guy Weaver, he was en route St Johns, that I remember as I live there, then onwards to Greenland. Young, ginger and apparently no interest in taking advice from a 12000hr rotary guy,with local and Greenland knowledge. :ugh::eek: One final thing, being Expat, it makes me very ashamed that there is a guy from the Midlands claiming to be a professional pilot and getting away with it apparently. Calling yourself "Catain Weaver'' yeah right, with your ratings mate, I find that an insult....:= Tosser....... |
Who was onboard?
Seems to me the relatively simple way to find out who was on board is to contact either the immigration authorities at point of departure/arrival
or the rescue service that collected the crew/pax from the incident scene. Someone will have the names and be able to prove who is telling the truth. |
Bumped into a crew this morning from US and the Weaver thread came up in conversation. If these guys are to be believed, poor old plank has a load more sh1t on his plate. I would not want to spread any unsubstantiated gossip on a rumour site, but the wait will test my patience to the limit.
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I am missing the significance of the date given in the previous post.
14.00hrs 3rd November 2011 |
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