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THEMRS 8th Jan 2011 04:55

Mrs Johnson, I am a wife of an unemployed Pilot and if your son expects to get a response well he might want to think of choosing a different industry to work in.
I read these forums as often as I can, and have a good giggle and a right moan on some of them, but the one thing that I have noticed is that the guys on this site tell it how it is, be it the good the bad or the ugly.
I watch my husbad fill in application after application, and he still persevers, as I am sure so many other unemployed pilots do.

So if you son has only sent out 2 applications tell him to man up move out and get on with his life and if he has a wife and children then my thoughts go out to them because I know what it is like to be the Pilots Wife

PicMas 8th Jan 2011 07:20

Seems the name & shame list is not going so well?!?
What a stupid suggestion, in ones first post (at least with that username), to mention two reputable companies as candidates for such a list.

That, however, does not make the idea of a list a bad one.
How about a list of selfpaying morons, the losers that paid for ratings and work, the identity-pilots that kept yours truly behind the wheel of a taxicab for too long, the 21yr old flight school graduates with 15 years aviation business experience, making weak excuses for having no backbone, the know-it-alls that "just want to get the career started" thus paying Ryanair, Pegasus or some other absolutely bottomfeeding operator for the privilege of making a colleague unemployed.
In short... the people that turns this profession into an expensive hobby for snotty-nosed punks with rich parents.

The scab-list from the days of old was a harsh, but righteous and just way of dealing with the undesired elements. Maybe it is time for a new list!

Ok, maybe a list is not required, just a bit of vigilance when in a position of screening for interviews/ jobs. Keep the deteriorators of aviation excellence on the low-cost or unemployed side of the fence. Don't reply to these applications.

ohhh... and a good morning, hope I don't come across as opinionated:}

Mrs Johnson 8th Jan 2011 08:25

A lot of of assumptions here.

Don't assume anything. Assume makes an ASS of yoU and ME.

My son may well have 10,000hrs, meet the minimum advertised requirements and be currently employed as aircrew.
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His dudeness 8th Jan 2011 08:32

getting my popcorn...:D

bizjet inmate 8th Jan 2011 09:25

10,000 hours on Microsoft Flight Simulator doesn't count Mrs J...........

But out of interest, Does your son have previous biz jet experience? if not he is aiming high applying for TAG......or did you apply for him?...can't remember now.....

PicMas 8th Jan 2011 09:50

He may indeed have thousands of hours, may also be currently employed as aircrew.

737 or 320? Or maybe ATR?

Say again s l o w l y 8th Jan 2011 10:18

Oh this is too funny to miss.

Does your son often say the phrase "Bitty" and if so, how do you respond?

skylog 8th Jan 2011 10:32

:}:suspect: this has to be a windup!!..now the wives are getting involved?!?!?

bizjet inmate 8th Jan 2011 10:35

They always have Skylog....or hasn't she told you?

But Mrs J claims to be his dear ole Mum......not wife......next Jeremy Kyle will be putting his opinion in....cant wait

proceeding outbound 8th Jan 2011 10:43

Well the whole thing doesn't really add up as TAG have an on-line application system that generates automatic responses. Finger trouble perhaps? Years ago I applied for a position at TAG. When they changed to the on-line system I got a letter from them requesting me to apply through the website. I did and got an immediate response and even though I am now happily employed I still get job updates from them periodically.

TAG probably receives hundreds of CV every month with dozens of pilots sending follow up emails as well as phone calls. The Chief Pilot would be neglecting his primary functions if he were to respond to each applicant - simple as that. :ok:

Say again s l o w l y 8th Jan 2011 10:51


Originally Posted by Mrs J Troll
A lot of of assumptions here.

Don't assume anything. Assume makes an ASS of yoU and ME.

My son may well have 10,000hrs, meet the minimum advertised requirements and be currently employed as aircrew.

Well for a start you mentioned that your "son" was out of work, so I think we can safely ASSUME that he isn't "currently employed as aircrew."

A good trolling job though, it made me giggle. I'll bet there are people out there that are mental enough to want to fight their grown sons employment battles for them in this way.

If you really want to help, slip on the suspenders and go and visit the chief pilot with a bottle rohypnol, a Polaroid camera and a Sheep called Betsy. Blackmail is a perfectly reasonable way of getting your diddums a job.*






*Obviously, I am joking.

FlyingGasMain 10th Jan 2011 08:28

Hey, this is good. Mrs Johnson is an a*se kicking momma. Have all the front row tickets been sold ?

An2 10th Jan 2011 09:38

Air Alsie is one fine company to deal with!
But, of course, you have to apply in the very same manner as everyone else; on-line application.
If you do that, you will get an automated reply, saying;


Thank you for your application as a Pilot in Air Alsie.

We do receive many uninvited job applications, and we do appreciate that so many show interest in Air Alsie. We will keep your application on file and in case of an interview you will hear from us.

Please keep your CV updated at all times.


This is a system generated e-mail. You can not reply to this e-mail.
Why name`n´shame a company that at least gives you the courtesy of a mail?! :confused:
Play by the rules, and thou shall be rewarded! :E

silverware 10th Jan 2011 11:28

Mr. Johnson,

get used to it, this industry isn't particulary known for its courtesy towards applicants.

dynamite dean 10th Jan 2011 11:29

Companies that dont reply, blimey my friends dont reply when I send them an email! :E

swampthing 10th Jan 2011 12:27

That is because you have not yet paid your outstanding friendship fees mr DYNAMITE !! :=

fernytickles 10th Jan 2011 13:34


getting my popcorn...
Pass it around, would you. Am off to get in the comfy chair - 2011 is starting off as a great year on pprune.... :ok:

How soon before this goes to JB????

Biggin Still 10th Jan 2011 14:29

Mrs Johnson, as he has so much time on his hands, can your boy come out to play??

737WJD 10th Jan 2011 17:01

This is as funny as it gets. Are you serious?
Quit washing his clothes, making his lunch ,and matching his clothes and tell him to grow a pair.
In my opinion, this is no business for moma's boys anyway.
Maybe you could get him a job as a librarian( not that there's anything wrong with it).

ShyTorque 10th Jan 2011 19:57


I have an idea! If pilots stopped applying for jobs when they don't meet the requirements, sending CV's when they are not asked for, or turning up without an appointment for a chat then maybe the people dealing with the applications would have enough time to reply.
I had an idea! I travelled 6,000 miles to knock on a door. I got an interview the following day and was offered a 3 year contract flying job, just ten minutes after the interview finished.


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