Dr Jones, your comparison with your MK Airlines colleagues doesn't make sense. You said it was because a "G" reg was painted on the back of the 747 that they took the 14 exams, not an "N" or other non EU reg.

We are talking about a completely different situation.The ridiculous proposal is aimed at pilots flying "N" or other non EU reg Aircraft in Europe. Quite simply why should we take 14 written exams when we are adhering to the legal licencing laws under FAA to fly our Aircraft with an "N" FAA reg on the back.

Now, I haven't ever seen the FAR's containing a section that stipulates that an FAA licenced pilot who legally flies an FAA "N" reg Aircraft should also have a JAA licence. Why ? quite simply it's as ridiculous as asking a JAA licenced pilot who flies G reg Aircraft to hold an FAA licence :ugh:

Oh and Dr Jones your comment about "hopefully your employers will be understanding" was humorous :rolleyes:

Errr, no would be the answer to that. 6 months off work in corporate is a no no. If this gets passed through as law then the lawsuits will be flying, as this will shatter livelihoods for many pilots who have been flying "N" reg safely for years.

Thomascl605

I dont fully understand the ins and the outs of this whole proposal.

But from post it would imply that you need an FAA ticket to fly it, and a JAA ticket to fly it in Europe - so in the future to fly N Reg aircraft in Europe you will need FAA and JAA tickets.

If thats the case apologies - I thought they had to re-register the aircraft as G reg

DRJ, so let's get this straight, you have been going on defending the EU proposal, but you never bothered to read it or any of the posts in this thread?

Good thing you are not flying in my outfit.

I have both FAA and JAR tickets so this does not affect me, however I am wholly against this ridiculous proposal and will do anything in my power to object to it, publicly here, with my MP and my MEP.

cldrvr

Where have I actually said I defend it !

Read back my posts your moron!

I have basically said just get on and do it!

SoCal

I dont think you are getting the point I am trying to make. You may have both but both will have cost you one heck of a lot of money and one heck of a lot of time and effort. Why?

Either an FAA ATP or a JAA ATP is good to fly a Jet in European or USA airspace. It happens every day! Just because the letters change on the aircraft doesnt mean you should have to run to the bank running up personal huge debts and massive amounts of time to do what you are already doing every day.

That is totally crazy and nonsense.
Unless of course you are only interested in EASA employees having never ending employement by regulating and regulating more and more until none of us will be able to comply with those regulations. We will not afford them!!

Ok European airspace is different and a differences exam is justifiable! even a flight test is justifiable as that will show up any shortfalls in your abilities.

There has to be some sense as its us that pay not the burocrat in Brussels.

Yes a Bilateral agreement has to be the answer and has to be thrashed out but lock the FAA and EASA in a room until one is agreed and signed up to and ban them from expenses luches until its all sorted because this is all madness.

Pace