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flylegacy 23rd Mar 2010 11:31

Chalidriver, i do not work for this company but you seem to know the owner and his mobile, so you worked this company i guess, so just say your name and if somebody here works for jetair please respond to him. you can not just make your bad experience and if zustand is right you are one of these who took a type-rating (this company one of the few that still pays the ratings ) and disappeared (fraud) i fly embraer legacy which they do not have, so disclose who you are if you are right we will see :ugh::ugh:

Der_Fischmeister 23rd Mar 2010 17:36

Marry Xmas 2010
 
Please Moderator may u cancel me out of PPRUNE.

DELETE MY ACCOUNT.

last time ..itīs THE FISCHMEISTER

Belgium Legacy 23rd Mar 2010 20:49

Flylegacy, from which planet are you?:ugh::ugh:

flylegacy 24th Mar 2010 12:57

proud to be

ShipShape 79 Charlie 23rd Aug 2010 22:15

Going Going Gone...........??
 
Any truth in the rumour that Imperial Jet has lost it's Lebanese AOC and the Handling at Beirut?

Rumblings that the LBA are closing in on Jet Air too???? Seems the New Reich didn't last too long..........rats and a sinking ship come to mind!!

Get your money whilst you can...........

Gizmo1 24th Aug 2010 08:01

Flylegacy
 
Please check your PM.

aviatn 24th Aug 2010 15:35

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they finally close their doors or get them closed for them. I used to free lance for them.The state of their aircraft was terrible. One of their guys overshot the runway in Braunschweig when they had an appointment with the LBA. The company kept the captain because he is Lebanese and knows the owner well, despite his gross error and negligence.

Dogmoch Group coming 26th Aug 2010 15:37

I work in Lebanon,USA, and I can tell you a lot abouts the persons who says he owns it.

It was all takens from others, nothing ever mades himself.

My staff told me this is how to get more infos, I already no the AOC is lost and the handling shut down as no longer allowed to operate, and they now try to take Lebanon to court.

Jet Air is also not owned by him totally, and that is the last place with the licnence, which is going.

the german lawyer for Jet Air got convicted of Fraud so does anyone now of the new ones now as people need to take actions.

Thanking you all kindly.

Dogmoch Group coming 26th Aug 2010 19:23

Also needed info on a lear jet aircraft that is named OEGII. It is not his and never has been.

And infos on the Boeing 737 as it is not his, he has never owned it as I need to get infos.

thanks you for private messages. Also need contacts for the German Aviation Authorite please sirs and madams.

LadyGrey 27th Aug 2010 05:10

Luftfahrtbundesamt LBA Deutschland

Luftfahrt Bundesamt - Homepage

flylegacy 27th Aug 2010 15:06

Wow, I just googled "Dogmoch" and it appears that this company was involved into big frauds in germany...

flylegacy 29th Aug 2010 20:41

for all who have send me a message, no Dogmoch has nothing to do with imperialjet or Jetair, i was asking dogmoch posting here about the facts on the net about them.
Jetair has moved to munich and they are doing very well, 5 people hve asked to delete the posting here who apparently were people rejected by Jetair for a flying Job.
additionally imperialjet have won the court case against the lebanese civil aviation authority ( corruption is known to be spreaded over the authority there) i would state correct your information, i work at jetair meanwhile and a very happy person.

INSIDEVIEW 29th Aug 2010 21:12

...
 
;so Heres My Deletion Of My Post As Requested !!!
May A Moderator Shares His Opinion Of Freedom Of Writing In This Forum !!

Cheers Inside Out

Saar 134.5 29th Aug 2010 21:34

Fly legacy doesnt work for the company in Feb, he is no a very happy person, and of course working there. :=

does anyone know why Imperial have had the handling and AOC shut down?

Fly legacy - you say 5 people have asked to delete the posting who are rejected from flying, I have 5000+ jet hours why would people be rejected form Imperial Jet?? :ugh: they fly lear jets off the runway, the have AOC's shut down in Lebanon, and no I saw on our arrival (dropping boss off) that the handling has been shut down :ouch: so with running off runways, AOC taken away, why would anyone be upset to not get through that company?

I hear they just lost a great accountable manager who tried to change the comany but in the end gave up and went to fly real aircraft in a real operation!

If you say Lebanon is known to be corrupt what does that say for the guy who use to work for Dogmoch and decided to set up Imperial Jet - why set up a company in a place for curruption? (you said it) :ugh:

so Fly Legacy is not an employee and now is ? :rolleyes: but at least he is a very happy person :D

who is fly legacy ??? haha

flylegacy 29th Aug 2010 22:02

you guys are sooo confused, no accountable is out. any incident is surely the responsibility of the authority and not people who pretend to be big guys with no nams shown. lets disclose each name before like with others the police do.

you guys don't even write a good word about any company in the insutrie i can imagine nobody wants you, just for your calculation from februray until september are more than 3 month, but it seems your quality is so poor so is your calculation.

read my post i said dogmoch has nothing to do with this company and that handling is online with court case being won against corruption and people like those posting such lies.

I am asking the management to take action with the help of lawyer and police and black list people like you guys to be public under fake names. be a man and disclose your name :ugh::ugh:

transilvana 30th Aug 2010 01:15

imperial-jet no good no, stay away....

flylegacy 30th Aug 2010 08:48

who are you transilvana ? transilvanian english :ugh: another pilot with 50 jobs a year amd 50 000 hours and nobody wants you ?

transilvana 30th Aug 2010 11:49

jjajajaja, Iīm ok on my job and my busniness, no need of imperial jet, they called me a month ago to fly for them, no way no. By the way, read this:


Dear Mr. Gonzalez,



I am writing to you on behalf of JETAIR Flug GmbH and Imperialjet S.a.l.

We have identified you for using the alias "transilvana" for your postings at pprune.org.



Our client had to recognize about several injurious comments on pprune.org where you

are the author. Through your untruthful comments, the reputation of JETAIR and ImperialJet

is seriously damaged and we will no longer accept this. We will use all legal possibilities

against the persons who publish such defamations.





You posted - among others - the following culpable posting:



Today, 01:15
#58 (permalink)

transilvana



Join Date: Feb 2004

Location: Dark side of the force

Age: 41

Posts: 178
imperial-jet no good no, stay away....








It will be no further discussion, that your posting is insulting, unfunded and untruthful.



We give you one chance to delete your postings within the next 36 hours - which means

latest August 31st, 2010, 18:00 MEZ.



In case you will fail to follow this demand, we will immediately use all legal possibilities against you.









Best regards

______________________________

Martin Spiegl

Vice President Special Projects



Imperial Jet s.a.l

Verdun Street | Concorde Center | Verdun

P.O.Box 13 6705 | Chouran

Beirut 1102-2060 | Lebanon



Phone: +961 (1) 353 777 ext. 206

Fax: +961 (1) 751 358

Mobile: +961 (70) 934 050

Mobile: +49 (162) 24 422 40



Mail: [email protected]

Web: ImperialJet



This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission.

My answer:

Martin, **** your company, I know who you are. Iīm going to talk with EASA about your canadian pilot with illegal flight license. should I?

INSIDEVIEW 30th Aug 2010 12:59

hi
 
Deleted To Have My Peace !!!!

aviatn 30th Aug 2010 20:14

What is this? A witch hunt?? Why is a pilots name being announced? The guy simply voiced his opinion as many do. Unfortunately this company has a shady reputation. Many posts have been written about them. A pilots identity should not be made public in such fashion just because the operator doesn't like the song he sings!!:=

flylegacy 31st Aug 2010 19:12

i guess one of the two pilots has deleted his posts and the others given to justice, the shady reputation you are talking about is coming through such people who are just posting untrue stories that even you believe it because you read it.you expect from a pilot to be more wise than posting things without thinkin about it, hope now with all identities bing identified people will learn to stop the bull**** and get a job so they blame themselfs and not others why they were not accepted

Saar 134.5 31st Aug 2010 20:25

Be cautious guys := takes a long time for jetair to pays people - lots of people owed :suspect: company. and wes all know it

flylegacy 1st Sep 2010 11:56

saar, are you one of these with no Job ? are you angry because the company moved to munich and no longer in your saarland:ugh: anyway you like maybe to disclose your name or another police man will be at your door, maybe also you did not notice but all were retrieving their messages because of lawyes and police disclosing those who were refused interviews or a job at jetair, maybe you still didn't notice as it takes you longer t understand

aviatn 1st Sep 2010 12:10

Guys, relax. I don't understand the commotion here. People are permitted to voice their opinion. This appears to turn into a Netjets forum.
I know the company well and can support the negative comments being voiced here.

Saar 134.5 1st Sep 2010 15:48

8 aircraft on order fly legacy- are u on this planet, or just visiting??? :=:=:=And to be rejected from jetair,:ooh: who could be this bad??????????? :mad: Pilots need paying !!! :=

Der Speigl 1st Sep 2010 15:56

Autodrivel..........
 
Hey flylegacy........I thought English Level 4 was a minimum requirement for a JAA Licence?

Saar 134.5 1st Sep 2010 18:30

someones at the door - oh, it is ok I thought it would be lawyes and police - sounds like a new pop group.:{:ugh::= :yuk: Saarland had a festival when Jet Air left!!! not sad, and we all work for people who pay on times not lates,!:=

His dudeness 2nd Sep 2010 18:44

In Level 6 German:

KINDERGARTEN. Spielt woanderst.

transilvana 2nd Sep 2010 22:51

SCENARIO:

First Time I take an aircraft from Impjet: just out of maintenance, tons of engrs around. Start engine 1.....thatīs it, end of the checklist, 5 days doing nothing at hotel.

Second time: I take aircraft from Impjet, all Ok by maintenance Beirut, books sihgned, bla, bla... No oxygen, no emergency brake air, no emergency blow gear air, 1FMS out, 1FMS database expired...Mr. X on board saying no problem, we can fly... what the ****!!!!

third time: wanted 18 hours duty, no way no, that was last time I visited them.

2 days later called me urgently, they have smashed and aircraft in germany with LBA...

Now, thatīs only me, I have dozens of same stories about this company from others.

By the way, those are the 3 times Iīve flown for them so 100% bad.

Now, I talk bad about the company? No, this is a professional pilot network and Iīm advising other professional what they will encounter, end of the question.

Der Speigl 3rd Sep 2010 09:40

I hear it woz a short walk to zeeeee crash scene in Brownzwiegggg for zeeee LBA ivestigations teams, zey could see most of the actions from theirs windows.....must be the first time that the Crash Scene Investigations woz at the offices of the Crash Scene Investigators........
Did zee AOC crash at zee same places yet?......I hear zat Vref +25 and a 10 knot tail wind is a good number to land with half way down the runway.....is zat how you is trained in canada?
I'm sure zat zee passengers must feel real safe with such pilots at zee cotrols!!......do zey clap when zee aircraft does land??????? Phew........:ok:

flylegacy 3rd Sep 2010 09:45

transilvana your true story from the pilots who knows you : you took the aircraft after release from maintenace, after trying to start the engines the aircraft had to return due to pilots mistake.
18 hours duty was never there, you have started as freelancer and wanted to fly longer however the head of operations stopped you due to bad english and imaginations about laser attacks which were investigated to be wrong.
embarressing that a spanish hostess was more of your interest than flying thats why ad due to policies you had to stop, you have never being called again as nobody believes you can fly, now you seem to have alot of time chatting as nobody wants, bad english and no flying skills, you pretended that a german maintenance facility like cirrus technick wh are renomated are not doing their job?? and you understand better than them

flylegacy 3rd Sep 2010 09:48

:=der speil created a new account to add such stupid comments. guys find another toy and look at the mirror and see the truth . looooooooosers

Saar 134.5 3rd Sep 2010 10:13

can someone help? - what does Flylegacy mean when he says L@ser attacks - is that a special code for lebanon?

I think Flylegacy is right, 18 hour duites do not happen in Imperial jet and jet air.

they are far longer then 18 hours. they lost one AOC so that is good for aviation safety the LBA still have the other one for s while longers.

yes, it was D-CJAF that landed in front of the LBA and decided to park on the grass at the end of the runway, cheaper then the ramps.

fly legacy never paid us on time := and in saar the was 10's of legal cases agaisnt jet air - we stopped picking telephone calls in the end!

their lawyer Estenfeld has now been found guilty of fruad it is even in public records!:O

haha flylegacy - i see you wrtoe about a pilots English - did you teach him?:O

or your lawyes and policemans. :ugh:

Der Speigl 4th Sep 2010 22:18

Game on.....

Belgium Legacy 5th Sep 2010 08:17

Getting some beer and chips :) and see this story unfold from an informative topic to a flame war where flylegacy starts digging a hole for himself.:=

Saar 134.5 5th Sep 2010 15:44

spain and france sign with Flylegacy
 
Do I reads this correct -that Flylegacy now controls the Spanish Goverment and its Aviation Authorities? - so the Country of Spain now has a special EU interests into Imperial Jet and Jet Air in Pprune!

mores and mores from the band lawyes and policemen.:D:D good band!

Flylegacy says people have fakey which is fake I guess? names- and he calls himself flylegacy so is that his real name - never seens a real unfackey or not fake name like that?:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

hes also now talks representing France too :D:D:Dand can tell us that it is official that France got rid of us in saarland becuase of quailty of people.

hes controls the Spanish authoities now, speaks on behalf of France now, attacks all of Saarland :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

when he publish names, does he do his own?? or is that less fackey?:mad::suspect:

the french never got rid of Saarland becuase of qaulities of people, and if there so bad why start here? the qualilty of the people were good enough to work when not paid here !!

aviatn 5th Sep 2010 17:26

this has become VERY entertaining. I log in daily to read newly added posts. Also, please keep up your fake English. It adds to the amusement factor.
Thanks participants for making me laugh.
What would you like to become once you have grown into adults?

Der Speigl 6th Sep 2010 12:59

Come on, now lets really find out what is going on in the JA camp are they still running Ops from the Cyber Cafe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oops forgot to mention Great move from Saarland, now the region can begin to recover from the terrible happenings there.

I must say that it never amazes me the way a company operate and still seem to blunder on, very odd and then the Authorities sit by and watch this happen.

There must be somebody who wants to do the right thing!!!!

How many aircraft are now sitting around, due damage, how many pilots still want to work for such companies:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

The guy who sits in the back really should understand a little aviation, to enure his own safety, when the crew up the front take risks when they should know better.

Anyway lets all hope we steer clear of companies that do not operate in the correct-safe way, and maybe the one not doing it right will stop doing it altogether making aviation safer for everybody in the sky and on the ground.

D S

UUWWbroker 6th Sep 2010 13:59

Russian Avition kicks!
 
Which is jet air? is this the same as ones in beirut with the Austrian lear jetand old Gulfstream?

I am confused :\- we have used imperial jet but cant use anyones with crash history so is it different one so is jet air and imperial sames?

UUWW is a peaks levels today again - its coming back :Dbut we cant book operators with incidents of accidentx as it is not allowes by clients. :{

Sunrise1927 6th Sep 2010 14:59

Yes, They are the same. They overrun the runway just in front of the LBA when they went to pass an inspection to obtain the AOC. Bad company with poor procedures. Many people (pilots, mechanics, engineers, operations personnel) left the company and there are still fighting to get paid. Stay away.


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