International Single Pilot Citation Flying
 

For US certificated pilots: Are you able to fly a Citaion II or SII with the single pilot waiver internationally?

I have heard that this waiver is only good in the US.

I'm told it depends who you ask.

If you ask the FAA, they might say no problem. If you ask the authority of the airspace you want to fly in, you might very well get a different answer...

I believe in Europe Both types require 2 crew members as both are FAR25 aircrafts. They both exceed 12500lbs.

Tug

I understand the key thing is the Flight Manual specifies a minimum of two crew, and the FAA licence waiver doesn't change what's written in the book.

I am getting mixed answers, but it seems it may depend on the country. I beleive I am safe to assume a ISP, IISP, or CJs which are typed single pilot do not require 2 crew of course.

If the aircraft is certificated by the manufacturer as a single pilot type you can fly it single pilot if you are appropriately rated. For public transport operations (certainly in JAA land) all turbojets have to be operated by two typerated crew so you can only fly single pilot if the aircraft is being operated privately. If you are flying an N-reg on an FAA licence and you have done the single pilot ticket you can fly wherever you like privately single pilot (two out of three, airspace doesn't matter). I don't know of any authorities that insist on two crew for private operations of a single pilot turbojet type.

Incidentally, the 12,500 weight limit doesn't matter if the aircraft is a single pilot type - you can operate a CJ3 single pilot privately if you wish.

Hope that helps

Tom

I know of plenty of people that would disagree.

For a definitive answer, ask your authority. And then your insurer.

Be wary of "the two out of tree rule". It's an oft quoted flying club maxim but non-existent real world rule. At best it's an inaccurate, potentially misleading, generalisation.

I agree with tommoutrie: privately, if the a/c is licensed for it and you have the endorsement on you licence, you're legal.

The insurer insures the a/c to be operated legally. If there are any experience, qualification or operating exceptions then the operator should have been made aware of them when the insurance was written. Anyway, most such exceptions are instigated by the operator, as a way to lower premiums.

But I'm yet to get a convincing reason why you wouldn't just want to fly two crew?!

single pilot ?
no other pilot to pay, only one hotel room, more performance

no FTL, full liberty of scheduling, etc..

a friend of mine is flying single crew for years, he is commuting from its home in southern france to the north twice weekly, why would he get a second pilot for ? to pay him in to stay in an hotel for 4 days in a row ?

(my bolding)

The key is that the aircraft is not licensed for it. The manual still requires "a minimum of two pilots". The FAA single pilot airman's waiver effectively means that the FAA will overlook that requirement. It doesn't mean the CAA of every country you operate into will. All the licence waivers in the world can't change the fact you're not operating the aircraft in accordance with a flight manual requirement.

Of course, it might be considered all academic. Until the day something goes wrong and the loss adjuster gets involved.

Not sure how this fits in, but the Citation 551 is a single pilot version of the Citation 550 (Citation II). I used to work for a slightly dubious outfit which had one. One of the considerations we had to take into account was that it had a reduced Max. Take Off Weight. We never flew it single crew.

Not a problem on the 551. Nor the 501, nor the 525 CJ series. All are certified as single pilot aircraft.

The issue is on the multi-crew certified 500, 550 and 560.

That's very informative.

I would be very interested to hear if "MOST countries" includes any of the EASA states.