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Life's a Beech 5th Jul 2007 19:36

To defend MikeHammer against his erstwhile boss's attacks I have to say that his experience fits with what I heard, from crew looking for jobs.

Guys, as Phil Brockwell says, we in the legitimate flying business are looking for experienced crew. There are good companies out there, operating legally and paying their pilots.

This is a great business which I love working for. It is disgraceful when people exploit the goodwill of young people wanting the first steps in their careers. As Propsync hints there are some awful employers in our sector, but they are outnumbered by good, solid companies who won't ask you to break the rules.

As for Mr Hammer, talking to the CAA about his responsibilities when he is unsure seems sensible. It is what our inspector encourages.

We might be holding interviews soon. Do you have a CV, Mike? If you do, PM me. You might send one to Phil too. They're not as good as we are, but not bad ;)

mikehammer 5th Jul 2007 19:46

Sincere thanks
 
Good heavens, I am overwhelmed. PM on its way to you, I'm probably not nearly experienced enough but nothing ventured nothing gained. There were a couple of experienced chaps with us at Unique so with your permission, I'll encourage them to do the same.

mikehammer 5th Jul 2007 20:02


because if not someone could simply set up one loss making company and one priofit making one.

Phil
Mr Brockwell has an excellent point. Listed on Companies House, and therefore already in the public domain, are:

UNIQUE AIR M & M LIMITED
THE COTTEGE 1 THE BARNS
OCHR DRAW FARM
NEW INN ROAD EWENNY
BRIDGEND CF35 5AA
Company No. 05597748

and

Name & Registered Office:
UNIQUE AIR G-WWIZ (UK) LTD
74A HIGH STREET
WANSTEAD
LONDON
E11 2RJ
Company No. 06278209

Of course I would not dare to suggest anything underhand is occurring.

Phil Brockwell 5th Jul 2007 20:02

Lifes a beach always assumed you worked in Europe, guess not if you are better....:E

Phil Brockwell 5th Jul 2007 20:12

So....IF, and I stress IF. Company A did the flights at no cost to company B, and company B sold the flights it received for nothing at a profit, is it flying for reward....anyone....anyone,....Bueller?

What ever happened to the original company, that was not called either of those names.

Say again s l o w l y 5th Jul 2007 20:15

I haven't got a copy here, but I reckon you're in the right there Phil.

I'm sure it has been used as a dodge before, but I cannot see how it can possibly be legal in anyway.

It would need to be a paperchase, but that wouldn't be too difficult.

You wouldn't be casting aspertions would you old boy? No, of course not. Totally hypothetical of course.

Phil Brockwell 5th Jul 2007 21:08

In fact my original comments were based around if Unique were servicing clients FOC, and there was a Medical Transport Company (not owned by Unique or it's associates) selling that charter would it be the medical transport company that is in the wrong.

All assumption, and given the interest the CAA have shown in Unique before, I would be surprised if they would fall for it.

Phil

LB1985 5th Jul 2007 22:10

I think somebody somewhere said that G-WWIZ was on Airtime Charters' AOC. I don't recall who said it though! :confused:

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 08:55

I'd be interested to know if Airtime Charters have any knowledge of that.

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 09:12

Have a look on the aircraft. The Operations Manual is required to be carried, and a copy of the AOC.
The paperwork that was issued during your OPC/LPC and line training would reflect the operator.
Phil

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 09:18

Which is the very reason why I'd be interested to know Airtime's take on it!

I'd be very surprised it they had any knowledge of Unique being on their AOC.

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 10:57

Let us be very clear about 3 things.

Mark Davies has conned established charter organisers by misleading them that he has an AOC.
He has operated flights based on that misrepresentation.
The aircraft is not being operated by Airtime or any other AOC holder.

Any confidentiality clause within his crew contracts cannot be upheld in a court of law if it prevents the reporting of a criminal act.

I notice with interest that his investor is not mentioned as a shareholder or Director in any of Unique Air's companies, although Frank is noted on the papers of one.

Someone take this bloke to court and shut him down before he kills someone. The CAA instill quality procedures for one reason and one reason alone....flight safety.

To run aircraft without an approval is an accident waiting to happen.

Phil

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 11:04

Phil I just fell off my seat!!!

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 11:07

Well.....no point in sitting on the fence. Rest assured, with MD's affinity for threatening legal action I am in possession of proof of everything I have said.

Phil

Say again s l o w l y 6th Jul 2007 11:12

Well done Phil. I have to say it has sounded like a dodgy operation from the start.

Now who was/is their FOI? Or did they forget about that?

Life's a Beech 6th Jul 2007 11:38

I don't think Moses would be caught wet leasing aircraft to an operator that is going to be a bad payer. He didn't build up Airtime by being a mug. So even if I didn't trust Phil's word I would not believe that one. G-WWIZ was based in Bournemouth, but is aparently being registered to new owners at the moment, if you check G-INFO.

I don't have the info Phil has, so I can't say that this is a con running illegal charters. All I can say is that some companies do try to get away with it, as a colleague of mine once noticed. His evidence helped the CAA fine that company.

If anyone comes across a company that they suspect is operating illegally, the CAA publishes a list of companies with AOCs. Notice the lack of entry for "Unique Air".

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 12:52

Another rumour doing the rounds about this company was that they were some how involved in G-SAMM and had coverage from Jet Options. I have checked and it is not true.

P

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 13:25

G-SAMM
 
Really? We were told it was due for collection by Unique two weeks ago or more, but then it kept getting bogged down with problems when engineers checked it. I say that's what we were told, I don't think it was true. For a time Davies had a picture of the aircraft on his office wall which he had downloaded from the internet. Sad really. From the pic it looked like a decent machine.

Never did see his Lambo either (the one which was lacking in headroom for him). Or the Ferrari for that matter. There's a bit of a pattern here.

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 13:32

I'm sure that once the payment is made it will be available for collection. The aircraft is certainly for sale.

Phil

Propsync 6th Jul 2007 14:40

Huh?
 
Lambo? Ferrari? G-samm? AOC? Website shut down? Unpaid staff? Public sackings? ANO deviations? Previous rep? .......:hmm: ...did I miss anything?

All we need now is now is a threatning letter and we have the makings of the next script for Aircrash Investigation!

I feel very sorry for you guys ! :{


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