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Life's a Beech 5th Jul 2007 19:36

To defend MikeHammer against his erstwhile boss's attacks I have to say that his experience fits with what I heard, from crew looking for jobs.

Guys, as Phil Brockwell says, we in the legitimate flying business are looking for experienced crew. There are good companies out there, operating legally and paying their pilots.

This is a great business which I love working for. It is disgraceful when people exploit the goodwill of young people wanting the first steps in their careers. As Propsync hints there are some awful employers in our sector, but they are outnumbered by good, solid companies who won't ask you to break the rules.

As for Mr Hammer, talking to the CAA about his responsibilities when he is unsure seems sensible. It is what our inspector encourages.

We might be holding interviews soon. Do you have a CV, Mike? If you do, PM me. You might send one to Phil too. They're not as good as we are, but not bad ;)

mikehammer 5th Jul 2007 19:46

Sincere thanks
 
Good heavens, I am overwhelmed. PM on its way to you, I'm probably not nearly experienced enough but nothing ventured nothing gained. There were a couple of experienced chaps with us at Unique so with your permission, I'll encourage them to do the same.

mikehammer 5th Jul 2007 20:02


because if not someone could simply set up one loss making company and one priofit making one.

Phil
Mr Brockwell has an excellent point. Listed on Companies House, and therefore already in the public domain, are:

UNIQUE AIR M & M LIMITED
THE COTTEGE 1 THE BARNS
OCHR DRAW FARM
NEW INN ROAD EWENNY
BRIDGEND CF35 5AA
Company No. 05597748

and

Name & Registered Office:
UNIQUE AIR G-WWIZ (UK) LTD
74A HIGH STREET
WANSTEAD
LONDON
E11 2RJ
Company No. 06278209

Of course I would not dare to suggest anything underhand is occurring.

Phil Brockwell 5th Jul 2007 20:02

Lifes a beach always assumed you worked in Europe, guess not if you are better....:E

Phil Brockwell 5th Jul 2007 20:12

So....IF, and I stress IF. Company A did the flights at no cost to company B, and company B sold the flights it received for nothing at a profit, is it flying for reward....anyone....anyone,....Bueller?

What ever happened to the original company, that was not called either of those names.

Say again s l o w l y 5th Jul 2007 20:15

I haven't got a copy here, but I reckon you're in the right there Phil.

I'm sure it has been used as a dodge before, but I cannot see how it can possibly be legal in anyway.

It would need to be a paperchase, but that wouldn't be too difficult.

You wouldn't be casting aspertions would you old boy? No, of course not. Totally hypothetical of course.

Phil Brockwell 5th Jul 2007 21:08

In fact my original comments were based around if Unique were servicing clients FOC, and there was a Medical Transport Company (not owned by Unique or it's associates) selling that charter would it be the medical transport company that is in the wrong.

All assumption, and given the interest the CAA have shown in Unique before, I would be surprised if they would fall for it.

Phil

LB1985 5th Jul 2007 22:10

I think somebody somewhere said that G-WWIZ was on Airtime Charters' AOC. I don't recall who said it though! :confused:

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 08:55

I'd be interested to know if Airtime Charters have any knowledge of that.

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 09:12

Have a look on the aircraft. The Operations Manual is required to be carried, and a copy of the AOC.
The paperwork that was issued during your OPC/LPC and line training would reflect the operator.
Phil

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 09:18

Which is the very reason why I'd be interested to know Airtime's take on it!

I'd be very surprised it they had any knowledge of Unique being on their AOC.

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 10:57

Let us be very clear about 3 things.

Mark Davies has conned established charter organisers by misleading them that he has an AOC.
He has operated flights based on that misrepresentation.
The aircraft is not being operated by Airtime or any other AOC holder.

Any confidentiality clause within his crew contracts cannot be upheld in a court of law if it prevents the reporting of a criminal act.

I notice with interest that his investor is not mentioned as a shareholder or Director in any of Unique Air's companies, although Frank is noted on the papers of one.

Someone take this bloke to court and shut him down before he kills someone. The CAA instill quality procedures for one reason and one reason alone....flight safety.

To run aircraft without an approval is an accident waiting to happen.

Phil

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 11:04

Phil I just fell off my seat!!!

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 11:07

Well.....no point in sitting on the fence. Rest assured, with MD's affinity for threatening legal action I am in possession of proof of everything I have said.

Phil

Say again s l o w l y 6th Jul 2007 11:12

Well done Phil. I have to say it has sounded like a dodgy operation from the start.

Now who was/is their FOI? Or did they forget about that?

Life's a Beech 6th Jul 2007 11:38

I don't think Moses would be caught wet leasing aircraft to an operator that is going to be a bad payer. He didn't build up Airtime by being a mug. So even if I didn't trust Phil's word I would not believe that one. G-WWIZ was based in Bournemouth, but is aparently being registered to new owners at the moment, if you check G-INFO.

I don't have the info Phil has, so I can't say that this is a con running illegal charters. All I can say is that some companies do try to get away with it, as a colleague of mine once noticed. His evidence helped the CAA fine that company.

If anyone comes across a company that they suspect is operating illegally, the CAA publishes a list of companies with AOCs. Notice the lack of entry for "Unique Air".

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 12:52

Another rumour doing the rounds about this company was that they were some how involved in G-SAMM and had coverage from Jet Options. I have checked and it is not true.

P

mikehammer 6th Jul 2007 13:25

G-SAMM
 
Really? We were told it was due for collection by Unique two weeks ago or more, but then it kept getting bogged down with problems when engineers checked it. I say that's what we were told, I don't think it was true. For a time Davies had a picture of the aircraft on his office wall which he had downloaded from the internet. Sad really. From the pic it looked like a decent machine.

Never did see his Lambo either (the one which was lacking in headroom for him). Or the Ferrari for that matter. There's a bit of a pattern here.

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 13:32

I'm sure that once the payment is made it will be available for collection. The aircraft is certainly for sale.

Phil

Propsync 6th Jul 2007 14:40

Huh?
 
Lambo? Ferrari? G-samm? AOC? Website shut down? Unpaid staff? Public sackings? ANO deviations? Previous rep? .......:hmm: ...did I miss anything?

All we need now is now is a threatning letter and we have the makings of the next script for Aircrash Investigation!

I feel very sorry for you guys ! :{

Propsync 6th Jul 2007 15:02

???
 
Pardon ?:ooh:

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 16:21

Anyone with CFMU, keep an eye out tonight for departures CWL-North Wales area.

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 21:13

Did anyone check if G-WWIZ departed CWL or Swansea tonight?

Life's a Beech 6th Jul 2007 22:21

Well it didn't leave Swansea before closing. Apparently. Well, so I understand ... ;)

Phil Brockwell 6th Jul 2007 23:38

I am arranging a meeting with our FOI regarding this matter, he will be interested if any correspondence with the CAA has sanctioned a "non-profit" Op without an AOC. Seems to me if this is the case most airlines do not need an AOC if profit is a pre-requisite.

I will be in contact with the NHS Trust (TFT) on Monday to check if payment is being made for flights, whether it be @ cost or not, and what method of due diligence they use to ascertain the suitability of an aircraft operator for work within the NHS.

I am also getting a "councils opinion" regarding whether a pilot who has signed a confidentiality agreement can be forced to comply with such an agreement if the reason for breaking such an agreement is to report a perceived crime.

If this company have a disregard for the procedures that bona fide operators have to achieve safe transport of freight and passengers they are probably not suitable to hold an AOC and I will be making that representation to the CAA. If anyone can furnish me with information to prove or disprove that opinion I would appreciate it.

Mike, I have had an email from MD claiming that you have falsified your log book and records, if you would like assistance in your legal defense of this matter please let me know.

Phil

Foxy Loxy 7th Jul 2007 10:17

Which begs the question....

Why did he take on mikehammer if he thought he'd falsified his logbook??

This guy sounds like a total mess. Mike, get out of there now! Swansea is jinxed - I should know, I worked there too and it was a very "instructive" experience. I learned rather a lot about those who lack scruples...

Keep your chin up Mike. It can only get better from here on in.

Foxy

Life's a Beech 7th Jul 2007 10:31

Writing to a third party making a defamatory claim? Specifically a third party who is a potential employer. Sounds like libel to me, and an especially nasty, targeted libel, if Mr Hammer can show his logbook to be accurate. Perhaps it won't be Mr Hammer needing to pay for defence. I am sure you are keeping that email, Phil.

Phil Brockwell 7th Jul 2007 11:42

I have no personal axe to grind, but I do have salaries to pay and a business to run, and ilegal operations should be shut down by the CAA. The CAA are an overstretched resource, so to protect my business I will do whatever I can to shut these amateurs down.

I think that the pilots involved should be a bit more careful. If there is no training, no operations manual and no post holdes, it's probably an ilegal op.

P

2old2dieyoung 7th Jul 2007 16:41

Outrageous!
 
Having read and tried to make sense of the remarks made by pilots who appear to have been shamefully deceived by a company whose legality seems very much in doubt !!!! It seems to me that the official policing body of the powers that monitor the aviation industry need to take immediate action to get to the bottom of this debacle before other aspiring pilots are put in the same position or even worse their lives are endangered and any other person who may be flying in the vaciniity!


What is the real purpose of this company? Who is running it? Who is pulling the strings behind the scenes and to what end?

What do they hope to achieve by putting peoples careers and aspirations and livelihoods including their families in such dire straits?

How many other companies are they in debt to?

Say again s l o w l y 7th Jul 2007 18:14

Unfortunately Phil, if you have inexperienced people in their first jobs, they often won't know what is acceptable or not. It's only when you work for a decent operator you realise how things should be done.

My alarm bells have certainly been ringing hard since I heard about this outfit.

Monkey Boy 7th Jul 2007 20:19

Hi Phil - Just to let you know that if you need me to make a statement, you know where to find me, it shouldn't be a problem - you know what about!

Good luck!

carbonfibre 7th Jul 2007 21:18

Me too
 
Also wiling to help out if required Phil (ref e-mail).
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask :=

Life's a Beech 8th Jul 2007 09:55

Half the problem is the JAA law exams, in the ATPL (or CPL) series. There is very little in the syllabus relating to what is required in a commercial operation before getting airborne.

The CAA needs to sort out the training system so pilots know about requirements for experience, training and paperwork in the office and on the aircraft for a single-crew operation. Then they could start to hold pilots responsible for making sure the paperwork is correct. Until they require pilots to know what the correct system looks like then pilots are going to work for dodgy operators. Most will not know they're breaking the rules, and if they do know they can plead ignorrance.

Incidentally it would make my job as a line training captain easier!

mikehammer 8th Jul 2007 23:08

Falsified Lognook???
 
Blimey. I've been away in the land of many Guinesses for one weekend, and it turns out I have made up my logbook!

Thanks Phil, for your support, I'll contact you separately on Monday by email regarding this matter, although, some of the emails I'll forward to you in return, from the "investor" in Unique Air, threatening libel action against me (unfortunately for him all I said was the truth and I've been taunting him (a lot!) with the truth ever since, hence his anger) will probably explain their recent email to you.

I am probably a thorn in their side which they would like incised. I hasten to add that it is only due to the extreme nature of the situation I have become such a thorn. Normally I am not prone to such action, and prefer to stay out of the limelight.

For the record I flew with an examiner within the last month, an instructor for differences training within the last week, and another examiner to renew my multi rating around Christmas time, before I went to Unique Air. Prior to that I renewed my IR about October last year, so again my logbook was scrutinised. I reckon therefore, my log book must be pretty accurate! In any event, it hasn't got very many hours in it, so unless I have been taking them off, I can't see what their claim is! Sadly it does not surprise me.

Reading here I get the impression some posts are missing, can someone PM me the full story?

Thanks once again for the many words of support, it is much appreciated, and I am sure other former pilots at Unique will feel similarly encouraged, and similarly grateful.

Phil Brockwell 9th Jul 2007 06:50

I want to point out that without the Pilots who have been flying these flights helping out with some dates, times and procedures etc this will be a hard one to get to prosecution. Rest assured there will be a certain amount of wrist slapping from the Feds. I am predicting that the CAA will take very seriously any claims that the aircraft was covered by an AOC if anyone has this in writing it would be an extremely useful document. From our broker chums any comercial offers to you or your clients stating operational control and mentioning some money changing hands, whether it be hourly rate or charter costs.
I only have proof of one flight at this stage, but am assured tere are more.

I know the pilots have signed a confdentiality clause and to that end sending stuff to me would leave you open. I will get an email address for the CAA Investigations Unit. There is no chance of upholding a confidentiality agreement if it is broken in the process of reporting a crime. It is impossible to contract a criminal act [FACT].

My personal goals from this are twofold. Removal of one competitor who refuses to play on a level playing field. Ceasing the operations of a company untouched by any regulatory safety body.

As we all kow, there are many people operating aircraft on the hooky charter market, go to any race meeting. However, they do not claim to have bona fide license to operate safely or take on pilots without paying them.

Phil

Phil Brockwell 9th Jul 2007 11:04

I have been copied a document originally sent by MS clearly stating that the aircraft is operating under an AOC. Are we missing something here? Is the aircraft actually on an AOC? If so, this has a completely different spin.

mikehammer 9th Jul 2007 11:59

AOC
 
My experience is that they are good at stating things like the aircraft is on an AOC, but not at backing these statements up with documentation.

Earlier it was stated that AOC documentation needs to be carried in the aircraft. When I flew there was no such documentation, and we were told the reason was that flights were non revenue pending AOC approval. As I mentioned earlier we were very concerned about this, and checked the situation with the CAA, anonymously. I don't even think that at that stage they had applied for an AOC. I don't know if this has been done now. I mean without one where can they go as a commercial entity?

carbonfibre 9th Jul 2007 15:08

Phil
 
18/8/06
Swansea - cranfield - stanstead - liverpool - swansea
Passengers picked up from stanstead at Harrods FBO and flown to LPL
There will be tower logs. Be hard to get a non-revenue flight out of those landing fees and fuel etc
Offers of reward for flying were made, that also included some dodgy low level flying offers of aerial photography, over a temporary no fly zone (which I refused actually). Somehow I get the feeling i will be an unsuitable pilot like MH
Mikehammer, maybe we should compare notes
PM me
:ok:
ps - I never signed any confidentiallity agreements either

Propsync 9th Jul 2007 15:11

AOC
 
So have they got one or hav'nt they? What position does that put they're pilots in ? ......anyone? :ugh:

mikehammer 9th Jul 2007 15:49

Carbonfibre

I have just been taking stock of the date of that flight you posted. It sounds like Davies has been at this for longer than I realised. When I joined we were told we were the first pilots with many to come, but that was on March 12 2007. What aircraft was it back then, as the Baron arrived shortly before Unique found me "unsuitable" and before it arrived there was no aircraft?

While we're on the subject of unsuitability perhaps Davies can explain something which I have just remembered. About six weeks in to the job he had me sit in on interviews for new pilots. It was highly embarrassing as his parents led the proceedings and talked liberally about the "fleet". Also the candidates were often far more experienced pilots than me, at the time I thought I had better be civil to them in case they ended up being my boss! If I was unsuitable why have me introduced as the "Assistant General Manager" (:\:\) to make it sound good? Come on Mark give us an answer - we all need a laugh.

PM on its way, Carbonfibre.


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