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jellycopter 1st Feb 2002 21:45

C550 Freelance Pilot Wanted
 
Probably not the ideal way to find a reliable, experienced C550 pilot for free-lance work, but here goes anyway.. .Need someone prepared to operate from NW UK, for occasional single-pilot hops to Europe for the next 6 months or so. Experience and UK Type Rating essential. Send me a PM with a few details if you're interested.

activewaypoint 2nd Feb 2002 02:53

Single pilot? With all due respect, no-one in their right mind should do this! <img src="eek.gif" border="0">

Zeke 2nd Feb 2002 06:28

activewaypoint

Many operators do fly light jets and turboprops single pilot if they are certified single pilot aircraft.

It's no big deal.

Z

TheDrop 2nd Feb 2002 12:32

C500/550 are Multi Pilot aircraft

C501/551 are Single Pilot Aircraft

The difference is minor, something like a transponder ident switch or something ?

Anyway, if it is a C550 it has to be converted to a C551 in order to legally be flown single pilot.

But why fly it single pilot ? I would say, at least have a non-rated or non-current pilot in the right side, if you fly a C501/551.

Or would that happen to be the owner who wants to sit on the first row himself ?

JJflyer 2nd Feb 2002 14:29

CE525 is a single pilot airplane. I seem to remeber that you had to have the following to fly it single pilot though.

Adequate storage space.. .Headset. .Operational Autopilot. .Cessna Abbreviated SP checklist. .Single pilot type rating ( ie no " SIC required " restriction on licence )

If one one was missing then a co-pilot was needed. Mind you I never had storage space on the airplane so F/O needed on allmost every flight. Gave a chance for a guy that had never got his hands on jets to log some time.

MAX 2nd Feb 2002 15:21

What if jellys job is not public transport but private?

MAX <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

activewaypoint 2nd Feb 2002 16:34

It really is a safety issue. When it hits the fan, another set of able hands is useful. Apart from anything else a single pilot waiver I believe has to be renewed quite often and there are operational constraints.. .I've had things go wrong, not often happily, in a C550, but I've been happy for the assistance of the chap in the right seat. Ever had a door seal go at F390? Ever had at engine wind down at similar levels? Ever had to review the approach for an alternate when the weather is crap and you would really have liked more fuel?. .Mmmmmm! Two crew rules in my book. Type rated co-pilot preferably and current. Captains of course never become incapacitated do they? Expensive passengers deserve a safety margin.

AYR521 2nd Feb 2002 16:51

Jellycopter,. .Tell me where I can send my details,I am type rated and current on the C550 and also available. .for the next 6 months.

jellycopter 2nd Feb 2002 17:14

AYR521, I'll mail you.

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stratocruiser 3rd Feb 2002 16:04

Jellycopter

Which airfield are you thinking of operating from?

jellycopter 3rd Feb 2002 18:53

SC, Liverpool.. .By the way, I'm not ruling out 2 pilots, I just want to keep my options open and already have the right-hand side filled several times over!

Stickies 5th Feb 2002 20:08

Jellycopter

I am also interested in the C550 position.Drop me an e-mail,

Cheers

V1 Rotate 9th Feb 2002 10:17

Two pilots or one pilot?. .For heavens sake at least put a rookie in the right seat to help them get some hours / exposure.. .V1 Rotate

TheDrop 9th Feb 2002 11:32

AMC FCL 1.215:

Single pilot jets according to JAA:

Manufacturer A/C Certification License endorsement. .Aerospatiale MS760 Paris S760. .Cessna C501 C551 C501, 551

. .Likewise, under AMC FCL 1.225 - Multi Pilot Aircraft - the following Cessna types are found:

C500, C525, C550, CS550, C560 (f) C500/525/550/560

and

C650. .C750

(and more are included.)

All aircraft listed under AMC OPS 1.225 are Multi Pilot Aircraft and per certification can only be operated with TWO PILOTS - whether privately or commercially. Only ILLEGALLY can they be operated single pilot. Or does FAA maybe allow Multi Pilot Aircraft to be operated single pilot ?

Look in the aircraft papers - does it really say C550, or does it say C551 ? If it says C550, the minimum crew in limitations should be 2 pilots.

. .So, how can you ask for a C550 pilot for single pilot ops ? Might as well have said you needed a pilot for B744 single pilot ops !

TD

[ 09 February 2002: Message edited by: TheDrop ]</p>

Jetscream 32 9th Feb 2002 13:29

The Drop,

Just because the a/c was mfr as a 550/551 or an STC conversion, it doesnt mean that everyone in the world knows what a 551 is.

A 550 type rating is good for both - and if its on the n-reg then poke your JAA rules.

Unless you fly them on a regular basis, do some research before you start mouthing off about illegal flying / operations.

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JJflyer 9th Feb 2002 13:38

Is it like drop in cows dropping ????? <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> :)

TheDrop 10th Feb 2002 17:22

I don't know what reaction you are trying to provoke from me, Jetscream 32.

It might be a C551 and not really a C550 - then no problem with single pilot ops.

It might be N registered and not G registered, and then it might be legal to fly privately under FAA.

But if limitations say minimum crew two pilots, can you then fly it single pilot legally ?

jellycopter 11th Feb 2002 22:34

V1 Rotate, ref rookies in the RHS I refer you to my earlier post!

duke of duchess 16th Feb 2002 11:13

i agree 2 pilots is easier and that inturn makes it slightly safer, but the way most are going on you would think flying single pilot in a jet was instant death.

I only have a couple of thousand hours so i dont pretend to be all that experienced but i have most of that time as single pilot IFR in light twins such as aerostars and chieftains with basic autopilots that regularly play up, a lot of this time is at night, doing mainly NDB approaches into places in the middle of know where so the only light around is the strip lighting and the mine or small town usually 10 miles or so away,

I know what i would rather be flying single pilot, and being in europe i am sure you have better approaches such as ILS which are a piece of **** to do and a lot of ambient light when you get visual from descent sized cities.

single pilot IFR seems scary and dangerous at first but after a few hundred hours of it you find it starts becomeing a lot easier and safer,

and i have done missed approaches at my alternate and had to divert to another aerodrome find the plate brief myself whilst figuring out my fuel status seperating my self from traffic and trying to figure out why the autopilot was disengageing after about 30 seconds every time i tried to use it, so i know how stressfull things can get but it is not to dangerous its the norm out here and there are very few crashs out here. :rolleyes:

Lima Xray 16th Feb 2002 13:16

Single pilot operations

duke of duchess has a point. This in relation to the option of flying with inexperienced ‘co-pilots’ in demanding situations. They will be ADDING to your workload. They should come along for the experience and be able to land the plane should they have to. Only after some training and trips they will become an asset. The premiums and or conditions of the insurance company also dictate the question of one or two pilots. They are with no doubt the best jobs to be had.


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