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LAVDUMPER 27th Oct 2001 00:51

Goldair (beautiful L45s) - What's its status now?
 
Yes, I know that Goldair seems to be a recurring topic on this forum - sorry to bring it up again...

I just saw a picture of a GORGEOUS Goldair Lear 45 down in Faro. The pilots LOOKED happy enough in the somewhat blurred picture. Is that a true statement? Are Goldair pilots happy flying those L45 hotrods?

I'd love to be in the sharp-end of one of those Lear 45s! What's Goldair's current status - is charter business picking up for them?

P.S. If you are a Goldair Lear 45 pilot I have one question for you: how FAR afield have you flown the Lear 45 on a mission - Eastern Europe, Middle East, North Africa...? I am envious!!!!!

Cheers

LAVDUMPER 27th Oct 2001 00:56

Forgot to ask this question:

Does Goldair have a website?

I remember seeing it once but I forgot the address. I tried to look it up on Yahoo but couldn't find anything.

Goldair's website address would be appreciated in addition to above questions...

Cheers

2Donkeys 27th Oct 2001 12:57

Try
http://www.goldairint.co.uk/

The Groover 27th Oct 2001 14:13

Hey Lavdumper
You on some kind of GoldAir appreciation society kick ?

There are other European operators of Learjet 45's you know, when we get our first one (Gama) in a few weeks time, we will be delighted to tell you all about it !

Don't most pilots look reasonably happy when they are standing in front of a brand new piece of kit with a nightstop at Quinta de Lago to look forward too ??????????????????

What a bizarre statement !!

Order of the Brown nose for you I fear old chap !


TG

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

lisajking 28th Oct 2001 15:35

As a broker the 45 is chartering extremely well - Went to the Goldair hangar the other day and Lear number 3 was being dispatched for its third job of the day. Lear number one was on its 600 hour check after only being delivered in April last year I think!

They do look a pretty mean aircraft - I know they went down to Kingston Jamaica the other day with no reported problems. That job Probably worth a few quid!

flybhx 28th Oct 2001 15:39

Groover,

How many 45's are GAMA having seems to be getting a popular bird in the UK

LRdriver 28th Oct 2001 16:26

What :eek:
a lear45 a hotrod??
we have the 45 engines as an apu on our 60
:D :D

(seriously though, the 45 is proving popular in our fleet,OY-reg)

Girl From Mars 28th Oct 2001 17:06

The 1 who knows, thanks for brightening up my Sunday !!
From a brokering point of view no wonder you are happy, bet you don't pass the rock bottom prices that GoldAir give you......you must be making a hell of a lot more than just a little something for mum !!
Still, can they substain these prices when it looks as if they are not going to force their competitors to reduce theirs at all, or for that matter put them out of business.
Is it true that they lost £7million last year ??
And for your info, the Kingston trip was a nightmare from start to finish.....the worst cock up was ops calculating an ambulance extension duty of around 15 hours, then assuming that you could take rest equivelent to that duty then do another ambulance extension after 15 hours rest...........ooops you need 48 hrs between ambulance extensions, the aircraft also went tec but hey ho, thats what you deserve if you get rid of all your decent ops staff and replace them with inexperience................me bitter, not at all !!

LAVDUMPER 29th Oct 2001 19:57

Interesting responses - sounds like Goldair L45s are proving popular. I have flown in a L45 and I found it quite comfortable - wish I could have sat up in the sharp end!!!!

But how do the pilots enjoy flying the L45?

Any Goldair pilots out there to share stories with envious wannabe L45 drivers like myself (not looking for employment)??????


Cheers

LAVDUMPER 2nd Nov 2001 19:02

Back up top...

Question for Goldair pilots: are you guys cross-qualified on other aircraft in your fleet? Would a L45 pilot also fly the CitationJet or Bravo? Do you prefer one aircraft over the other?

And... How many L45s do you expect to have eventually?

Cheers

Daifly 3rd Nov 2001 23:51

Lav, why are you so desperate to find out all the info you can about flying for European operators? If you're in the States, it's not really going to affect you is it?

Who cares about how happy Goldair's crew are! Like most pilots, the job is probably enjoyable, the money OK - but there's always something better around the corner...

AMEX 4th Nov 2001 01:28

Yeah, the questions are rather naive.

VIKING9 4th Nov 2001 15:42

I say nothing http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/anon.gif

LAVDUMPER 5th Nov 2001 23:17

Daifly and AMEX,

First, you don't have to read the posted questions if you are not interested... I am familiar with the operation and I would like to hear first-hand if the L45 pilots enjoy their work. I enjoy my work - and I do not fly a L45 - although I might want to some day...

Is that OK with you? Do I have to ask for your permission to ask questions? Is this not a FORUM? Do you have to waste all of our time with your lame responses?

I don't see you guys contributing in a positive way on this particular forum? If you have better questions, ASK THEM! Otherwise, allow others ask their own questions - whether you perceive them to be naive or not...

Daifly - your attitude sucks! Do you mind if I inquire about other pilots' jobs/lifestyles because I would like to compare them to my own - is that OK with you? You rarely post interesting questions yourself. Perhaps you should not drink and play with the computer at the same time...

Going forward, please contribute to this forum in a positive manner. Don't shoot down people because they may have naive questions - this is a FORUM where all types of questions are posted. Quit wasting our time... GOD BLESS!

The Groover 5th Nov 2001 23:47

Hey Lavdumper

Looks like your banal postings have fallen on deaf ears.

Still, if you ask stupid questions, you get stupid answers, or in your case none at all !!! :p :p :p :p :p

Yawn........................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


TG
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That's the way its goin' down.....baby !

LAVDUMPER 6th Nov 2001 01:17

The Groover,

Another good contribution from you! Way to go! Boooooy, you must be intelligent - you used the word "banal" - are you still using the dictionary on a daily basis? You're cool... Who cares if you are insecure about your lack of intelligence and your remedial education - Really, I don't care...

Another example of a JACKA$$ response... I had several good responses before yours. It was a simple question looking for useful responses. That's all.

Perhaps we should keep the space open in the future for your PROFOUND questions (I am sure Daifly will have some as well) given you are so very intelligent... Yeah, good luck with that.

Any more positive contributions? If not, let's close up the thread because you wouldn't want to bore super-intellectuals like The Groover and Daifly...

Donkey Duke 6th Nov 2001 01:40

To The Groover, Daifly, and AMEX,

Hello little boys. It's nice to see that you
all think LavDumper is Naive asking questions about the Lear 45 operator. Who are you dorks? You guys have no right to put Lav down. Heck, he obviously enjoys aviation-----but you jerks obviously live
"banal" lives doing the same things day in and day out. If you are bored with flying....quit. People come to this forum to ask questions and gain insight-----not to be "slammed" by underachieving idiot wannabe's like yourselves. Get the picture? Good. Contact departure---Donkey Duke. :cool: :cool: :cool:

Daifly 6th Nov 2001 13:42

Lavdumper,

Of course you don't have to ask my permission to post here, old boy. In fact you just carry on posting to your hearts content...

Donkey, thanks for your rather insightful comments into the mind of an American ATP. It's nice to know that I'm an underachiever - I'd never known it until you pointed it out, thanks. Why would I wannabe a wannabe? Very, very strange...

All these lovely comments from just asking whether or not it was really useful for you, I mean world affectingly so, to know whether pilots of a company over here are happy? I mean it's nice of you to show your concern and all...

And my post about all pilots being happy with their lot until something better comes round the corner is also, I would argue, factual.

However, I would never seek to become profound. Although obviously you think I am, which is nice...

Just one other thing. How come no Goldair pilot has bothered to reply to you?

Stan Woolley 6th Nov 2001 13:49

Lavdumper

I too find your posts intriguing.If you do fly you are very unusual in keeping your enthusiasm at that level,I'm glad for you if that's the case.

You have shown some vitriol towards Ryanair recently which surprised me,obviously you're not as naive as some of your posts may suggest.

I have no problem with you asking anything you like but I do sort of understand why some of your questions/statements produce the type of reply seen above.

Go on give us a clue!

activewaypoint 6th Nov 2001 14:08

Hey BOGTIPPER......howz it going? Flying any interesting routes lately???Which aircraft do you like to fly most and why?
I remember one of your posts saying you were about to start a Citation X course. How was it? :D


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