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Flyinggroup Antwerp/NL assessment

Old 18th May 2021, 18:57
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Originally Posted by 3RDi View Post
So called professional pilots choosing to come on here revealing their emotional instability when they donít get what they want. I think itís unfair to speak of FG so disparagingly. The deal may have been weak according to you, but doesnít warrant such an aggressive response against them AND Europe when you have never worked here (technically, as you say). Itís not nice. Calm down and move on. Iím sure they dodged a bullet with you too. Enjoy America.
You seriously think this a fair offer and a reasonable salary for somebody that has a 100.000 Euro education? The PC-24 typerating is costing NOTHING to the owner as the airplane comes with 3 free typeratings from Pilatus. The 4 landings for the basetraining cost probably 2500 euro for the 30-45 minutes of flying. A 25000 Euro bonding would be on the high side for this project with 15000 to 20000 more realistic.

And as for the best bonding, why not pay a fair pilot salary and give good conditions. Works so much better then forcing people to stay.

But everybody gets what they deserve. Flying group a bunch of desperate pilots and you probably a shitty career. I feel sorry for you.
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Old 18th May 2021, 19:59
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Originally Posted by pilot dude View Post
You seriously think this a fair offer and a reasonable salary for somebody that has a 100.000 Euro education? The PC-24 typerating is costing NOTHING to the owner as the airplane comes with 3 free typeratings from Pilatus. The 4 landings for the basetraining cost probably 2500 euro for the 30-45 minutes of flying. A 25000 Euro bonding would be on the high side for this project with 15000 to 20000 more realistic.

And as for the best bonding, why not pay a fair pilot salary and give good conditions. Works so much better then forcing people to stay.

But everybody gets what they deserve. Flying group a bunch of desperate pilots and you probably a shitty career. I feel sorry for you.
Iīll echo to that! The low conditions offered by Flying Group in this particular case seems to have been aimed at just attracting a relatively inexperienced Captain (a beginner). Itīs been voiced that FG have been able to attract a very experienced pilot for this position, however with the offered conditions, I doubt the new hire will be retained for long - as the aviation industry picks up. Recruitment and retention - somebody will have to pay. The owner will only realize this as he gains experience having his shiny jet. FG fouled him.
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Old 25th May 2021, 16:46
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Originally Posted by FlyTCI View Post
PC24 Captain Ä5040/month, Ä95/day per diem. They also had some sort of freelance proposal but I didnít even entertain that as an option so didnít pay too much attention to it.
Wow... that sounds a lot like the offer I received from another western european company last week - 5000Ä gross and 75Ä per diem for a PIC on a medium jet where I should also do Line Training for fresh FOs straight from flight school and zero jet experience for...
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Old 10th Jun 2021, 02:14
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Had the same thing myself , 5k offer gross which netted out at 3200 , some per diems 80 of 100 euro I think , and a ******* stupid bond of 70k . I was an unemployed heavy jet pilot for 1 year with approx 15k hours .Decided I keep doing the gardening . 2 weeks later rehired back on the 777. I did subsequently discover that these bonds arenít worth the paper they are written on , unenforceable under EU law , refuse to pay , and no court will make you pay it .
would still love to experience private jet work at some stage though .
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