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Is self-isolation mandatory in EU?

Old 8th Oct 2020, 10:32
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Is self-isolation mandatory in EU?

Hello all,

I was fortunate to move from airlines to privately owned aircraft flying. But i am frustrated with the requirement to self isolate after every business trip i make. I just returned home after TR course on the regular airliner as a passenger and have to self-isolate for 10 days without possibility to endorse my rating, after the isolation I will travel to my neighboring country to endorse the type rating and then again have to self-isolate for 10 days. Is there a trick to avoid this nonsense in EU? I know that airline pilots are exempt from isolation, but what about corporate pilots flying dead head?
Any advise is appreciated.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 12:16
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We travel in uniform and put on the UK PLF that we're operating crew etc when airlining. Not a problem. Even if we have to self isolate, you're allowed to go back to work. Weird...
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 15:44
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Originally Posted by Luray View Post
Hello all,

I was fortunate to move from airlines to privately owned aircraft flying. But i am frustrated with the requirement to self isolate after every business trip i make. I just returned home after TR course on the regular airliner as a passenger and have to self-isolate for 10 days without possibility to endorse my rating, after the isolation I will travel to my neighboring country to endorse the type rating and then again have to self-isolate for 10 days. Is there a trick to avoid this nonsense in EU? I know that airline pilots are exempt from isolation, but what about corporate pilots flying dead head?
Any advise is appreciated.
no such laws in the “EU”. All regulations are by their respective sovereign countries. So it really depends what you call home. My country has no law for self isolation at all. Just a stringent advice. However “necessary travels are exempted”. What is necessary? Dunno, but they deemed me a vital profession so that is ok.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 16:04
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Luray

As Saul says the rules are country specific, so you'll need to do more research.

As a starter the UK rules on those exempt from self-isolation are here:

​​​​​​https://www.gov.uk/government/public...k-border-rules

Aircraft pilots and crew

Applies to:

Pilots and crew, as defined in paragraph 1 of Schedule 1 to the Air Navigation Order 2016(h), where such crew have travelled to the UK in the course of their work.

You will need to complete the passenger locator form before you travel to the UK if you travel in any part of the aircraft that is accessible to any passenger for any part of the journey (for example the aircraft cabin).

You do not need to complete the passenger locator form if you travel in a part of the aircraft that is not accessible to passengers, for example a fully enclosed cockpit.

You will not need to self-isolate.

You should show a crew badge or ID.
It may have changed now but initially "in the course of their work" was interpreted as being a rostered duty i.e. arriving as operating crew or rostered deadheading..it didn't cover travelling as a passenger on your own dollar in order to go to/from work.

Some companies now have their own more detailed/additional rules (agreed with the Government) to cover items such as procedures to be followed by crew travelling prior to or after a duty.

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Old 10th Oct 2020, 15:50
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Considering you are from Northern Europe and talk about 10 days self isolation I assume that you are from Norway, as most other countries have 14 days quarantine if any;-). If so the latest regs state that flight crew is exempted quarantine provided they take a corona test every 7th day.

Even though you are flying in a private airplane, as long as you fly commercial and not on a C172 you are still flying crew. Maybe keep a letter from your employer that you fly as a professional pilot on his airplane together with your crew ID just to be sure.
  • Flypersonell som ankommer Norge med fly som har vært i et område med karanteneplikt, og som har forlatt flyet i området, er unntatt innreisekarantene i både arbeidstiden og fritiden dersom de testes for covid-19 minst hver syvende dag.

http://https://www.helsedirektoratet...tene-i-10-dogn
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Old 11th Oct 2020, 03:11
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Thank you!
I used to work in Norway in a regional airline. After mass redundancies moved to Latvia. I understand that to be exempt from self isolation rule one has to be employed in the AOC type of a business outfit? My new place has no AOC, its just me and the aircraft owner + "mickey mouse" ID.
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Old 11th Oct 2020, 19:37
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if you're flying within the EU - I believe most countries do NOT require any quarantine. Of course if you come from outside the EU, and countries not listed as exempted, you'll need to quarantine. Anyways, I'm sure you're on top of this.
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Old 12th Oct 2020, 10:55
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Originally Posted by Luray View Post
Thank you!
I used to work in Norway in a regional airline. After mass redundancies moved to Latvia. I understand that to be exempt from self isolation rule one has to be employed in the AOC type of a business outfit? My new place has no AOC, its just me and the aircraft owner + "mickey mouse" ID.
it depends of your country of residence wether you have to self isolate. I am sure that the Latvians have regulations in place for “neccesary travel” or “work related travel.” As I menstioned before, there is (atm) no single set of regulations for all EU member states.
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Old 12th Oct 2020, 11:46
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Thanks Saul,
It turns out all you have to have is a crew id and an aircraft, otherwise its impossible to avoid self isolation. As long as i came in as a passenger, they don't care if i am a pilot or an astronaut, its all the same for them.
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Old 12th Oct 2020, 13:20
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I take the hard line here. And I'm freelance private ops. I carry a crew badge, travel in uniform, have an exemption letter from any company I'm contracting for - or my agent. And I go anywhere I want. Airline positioning, operating, recurrent training - whatever, as long as it's relevant to my licence and exercising the privileges there off. I'm absolutely not subject to any quarantine requirements - unless specifically stated for crew - and neither are you. All these quarantine regs are for non-essential travel. If the world wants aeroplanes then people like us are not subject to restrictions.

That said, I self-isolate on the road and I am very careful when I'm at home. With privilege goes responsibility.
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