Challenger missing in Mexico

[jimtx]

Was the PIC legal to fly that aircraft in the US if his license was listed as pending on his flight plan?

[Old Boeing Driver]

I think his license was valid and the pending had something to do with overflight or landing permits.
Maybe the handler did not have his certificate info before requesting permits.
The pilot was reported to be experienced and former military.

[jimtx]

Originally Posted by Old Boeing Driver

I think his license was valid and the pending had something to do with overflight or landing permits.
Maybe the handler did not have his certificate info before requesting permits.
The pilot was reported to be experienced and former military.

I don't see any record of the crew having FAA licenses but maybe they did a recent US based training and the license would be pending. Does a temporary certificate have a number?

[Old Boeing Driver]

Here is the flight plan. Whoever filed it put pending in the certificate box. He may not have filed it himself.

However, I cannot find either pilot in the FAA airman records. A temporary airman certificate does have a number.

From another forum, and a Mexican poster. " probably Lazy dispatch that didn’t put the certificate in. From what I’ve seen, the certificates were good. "

The captain was flying a Challenger internationally in 2011.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-El-Chapo.html

[Old Boeing Driver]

Here is the crew info:
First Middle NameJUAN JOSE Last NameAGUILAR TALAVERAStreetABEL SALAZAR 208 CityTENANGO DEL VALLEState Zip Code52300CountryMEXICO RegionGENERIC>AFS-643 RESPONSIBLEMedical Date2018-12-01 Medical Expire Date2019-06-01Medical Class1 Certificate Type, Rating, and Instructor Expire Date PILOT 61.75/PRIVATE (Foreign Based) - AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
PILOT 61.75/PRIVATE (Foreign Based) - AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
PILOT/AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT - AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
PILOT/STUDENT - No Rating Type Ratings CL-600 (AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT)
DA-20 (PRIVATE (Foreign Based))
G-1159 (AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT)
G-IV (AIRLINE TRANSPORT PILOT)
SA-227 (PRIVATE (Foreign Based))
First Middle NameLUIS OVIDIO Last NameGONZALEZ FLORESStreetPALMAS #431 COL POTRERO ANAHUAC SAN NICOLAS CityDE LOS GARZA N LState Zip Code66456CountryMEXICO RegionSOUTHWESTMedical Date2015-03-01 Medical Expire Date2015-09-01Medical Class1 Certificate Type, Rating, and Instructor Expire Date PILOT 61.75/PRIVATE (Foreign Based) - AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
PILOT 61.75/PRIVATE (Foreign Based) - INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
PILOT/COMMERCIAL - AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
PILOT/COMMERCIAL - AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
PILOT/COMMERCIAL - INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
PILOT/STUDENT - No Rating

[atakacs]

medical lapsed for 4 years?!

[Old Boeing Driver]

Update. I finally found them on the FAA site. The F/O last medical was 2/2018....still out of date, but there may be delays in processing depending on if he got it outside the USA. He was type rated in the airplane.

Certificate: COMMERCIAL PILOT
Date of Issue: 3/29/2018

Ratings:
COMMERCIAL PILOT
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND
INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE

Type Ratings:C/CL-600
Limits:
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.

[B2N2]

Originally Posted by atakacs

medical lapsed for 4 years?!

The FAA allows a foreign medical to be used when you excercise the privileges of your 61.75 piggy back certificate.
FAA medical or medical of the country or original license issuance.

As far as the FO, to excercise the privileges of a a FAA Commercial certificate he needs a Second class medical. His First class will downgrade to a Second class 6 months or 12 months after initial issuance depending on his age.