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Old 21st Mar 2021, 16:20
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I was in contact with a guy who works there; over 4000 applications.

i am under review as well

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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 10:29
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 21:46
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A mediocre company getting 4000 applications (likely the majority are from applicants without a pilots license - but no need to disclose that part.. :-) ) Well, it serves to prove the desperate state the that pilot profession is in (from those who applied and actually had a pilots license!).. Needless to say that the exodus will likely be of a similar character..
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Old 22nd Mar 2021, 23:26
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A mediocre company getting 4000 applications (likely the majority are from applicants without a pilots license - but no need to disclose that part.. :-) ) Well, it serves to prove the desperate state the that pilot profession is in (from those who applied and actually had a pilots license!).. Needless to say that the exodus will likely be of a similar character..
For someone who has in their own bibliography 'Awesome', try and be awesome and lead by example and help others to stay motivated in difficult times. A massive load of pilots got booted out of their companies, were in the transition of changing jobs in a good market and got discontinued or cadets who have just finished their training moving heaven and earth to get a message back from a company and hopefully an invitation. Be thankful for what you have, because apparently it is not "a mediocre company" where you work, but show some support for your colleagues who are motivated to get back to work or to get a job.
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 09:08
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For someone who has in their own bibliography 'Awesome', try and be awesome and lead by example and help others to stay motivated in difficult times. A massive load of pilots got booted out of their companies, were in the transition of changing jobs in a good market and got discontinued or cadets who have just finished their training moving heaven and earth to get a message back from a company and hopefully an invitation. Be thankful for what you have, because apparently it is not "a mediocre company" where you work, but show some support for your colleagues who are motivated to get back to work or to get a job.
What I said is correct. You may have a different view on this, but that doesn't change an industry perspective. As you correctly mention, the unfortunate fact that lots of pilots lost their jobs, is the main reason that VJ is now having their moment in the sun - nothing else.
And for the record, I went for the VJ assessment back somewhere around 2010, passed it and was told to await further contact by some accountable manager (Mr. Amb or something like that). Nothing further ever happened after that. I wasn't particular keen on joining them in the first place - so I left it at that. Lots of other successful applicants had the same happen to them. I suppose you don't like to hear this, since it might come across as unmotivating to you, but not everybody lives by the ostrich method. Good luck with updates on their recruitment site.
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I guess bad luck what happened to you and your fellow applicants. I think everybody who applied is well aware of the stories that have been told by others who have applied or have worked there, but also stories of people who work there currently.

I don't really live by an ostrich method, I'd rather just try and see what happens. If you go in with too many expectations, then there is high chance of being disappointed. what happened to you, is disappointing at the least, but that was 11 years ago. Maybe things have changed, maybe they haven't. But if someone wants to go to an assessment, i'd rather get a motivational boost with some sense of reality instead of just negativity.
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 11:18
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Dear Klimax, in 2010 Vista was a complete different Company .. with a different Management.

Much love..

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I guess bad luck what happened to you and your fellow applicants. I think everybody who applied is well aware of the stories that have been told by others who have applied or have worked there, but also stories of people who work there currently.

I don't really live by an ostrich method, I'd rather just try and see what happens. If you go in with too many expectations, then there is high chance of being disappointed. what happened to you, is disappointing at the least, but that was 11 years ago. Maybe things have changed, maybe they haven't. But if someone wants to go to an assessment, i'd rather get a motivational boost with some sense of reality instead of just negativity.
You can say that it's 11 years ago, which is indeed a fact, however that doesn't disqualify the event as factual and therefor also reality. Perhaps things have changed at VistaJet - perhaps not. It's free for anyone to be selective about what they take from this forum, and it's fair enough that you prefer to go for an opportunity and simply see what happens. But you can't expect to only get fed positive stories in here, when there are realities that are not just that. Good luck with the assessment if you get called.
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Dear Klimax, in 2010 Vista was a complete different Company .. with a different Management.

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Ok, well that's informative.
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 15:12
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Originally Posted by Klimax
You can say that it's 11 years ago, which is indeed a fact, however that doesn't disqualify the event as factual and therefor also reality. Perhaps things have changed at VistaJet - perhaps not. It's free for anyone to be selective about what they take from this forum, and it's fair enough that you prefer to go for an opportunity and simply see what happens. But you can't expect to only get fed positive stories in here, when there are realities that are not just that. Good luck with the assessment if you get called.
Understanding you were there in 2010, means you’ve working a while in this industry. For me it has been since 2018. Still here to see what is around. Definitely not expecting only good stories on here, but loads of people come on this forum and smash opportunities in to the ground by saying “where I work is way better” and then do not share where they work or anything else. Same as “I am going on holiday to the Algarve” and get a reply “my parents have a beach house in Barbados”. Does not add anything.
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 18:28
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Ok, well that's informative.
Lol...my thoughts exactly!
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 20:45
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Ok, well that's informative.
I’d suggest it’s no less informative than the nonsense you’ve posted yourself. Suggesting the majority of the applications are from people without licences? Really?

I fail to see what you and a couple of others are offering to this thread. Your only experience of VistaJet appears to be failing the selection process, the others appear to have none at all other than having once spoken to some crew.

The downsides have been well noted on here. It’s really not complicated, if you can’t make those downsides work then don’t apply.

Anyone who goes in happy with those downsides should be very pleasantly surprised when they actually get online. Contrary to what some may think, most of us actually thoroughly enjoy our job and, as far as I can tell, morale is generally high! Get a good crew, a moderate workload and some nice destinations and it’s like going on vacation with your buddies. Personally I love it.
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 21:48
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Anyone who goes in happy with those downsides should be very pleasantly surprised when they actually get online. Contrary to what some may think, most of us actually thoroughly enjoy our job and, as far as I can tell, morale is generally high! Get a good crew, a moderate workload and some nice destinations and it’s like going on vacation with your buddies. Personally I love it.
Thanks Alanpartridge.

Can I assume you work for VistaJet? Any chance on sharing some experiences?

All the best!
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Old 23rd Mar 2021, 22:06
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Thanks Alanpartridge.

Can I assume you work for VistaJet? Any chance on sharing some experiences?

All the best!
Yes. And maybe.......depends what you’re asking! Public forum etc....
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 07:27
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This is a rumors network and unfortunately lots of people use it just to vent their frustrations about things they heard from a friend of a colleague of a cousin of their next door neighbor once removed . I've worked for VistaJet for 9 years now and believe me it's an OK place. If you want a steady roster (17/13), fly state of the art technology and are not afraid to boldly go where others haven't you will be in for an adventure. Like any other company there are plusses and minuses. But the minuses are nothing like what is described by people on this forum who have little or no personal experiences with VistaJet anno 2021. The Vista Group has grown into a force of amalgamated companies and entities with a well defined purpose. Apply if you want to but do not expect 100% immediate response. As you know the supply side is quite abundant right now and there are literally 1000s for suitably qualified applicants waiting for their c.v's to be processed. If things go as planned there will be plenty of vacancies. My advise is to think about the pro's and con's. Vistajet is not for everyone. But those who do get thru and work there like I do enjoy it because 99% of the people you work with are committed individuals who took on the challenge and ran with it. And if you do get invited to an interview and/or assessment listen carefully to what management will tell you. They are very honest about what they believe in and what they expect.
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 08:19
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Yes. And maybe.......depends what you’re asking! Public forum etc....
I tried to send you a personal message but your mailbox is full. Could I ask you some things via there?
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Old 24th Mar 2021, 13:04
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Dear Klimax, in 2010 Vista was a complete different Company .. with a different Management.

Much love..
I know someone that flies for them and they say its different faces but same corporate shtick... There are definately worse employers out there though, some much worse and nobody is holding a gun to your head to work for Vista... Like everywhere it suits some and not others. To be fair though, it is tricky to make a worthwhile profit with their business model. Probably have to fly each and every aircraft for close to 500 chargeable hours per year just to break even (depreciation, back office costs etc on top of the DOC), not as easy as it sounds in the very limited marketplace this industry serves.

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