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Old 14th Jan 2022, 10:33
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No I wasn't going to bust a gut chasing them, I took an alternative offer at the time. But I just thought it remarkably poor form - I've had applications, CVs, meetings, ignored without reply (haven't we all), but never before have I traipsed across Europe, pass the selection, contacted with the result ... and then been completely ignored. Apparently there was quite a number of us who passed, and then were blanked.
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 08:09
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Originally Posted by Joe le Taxi
No I wasn't going to bust a gut chasing them, I took an alternative offer at the time. But I just thought it remarkably poor form - I've had applications, CVs, meetings, ignored without reply (haven't we all), but never before have I traipsed across Europe, pass the selection, contacted with the result ... and then been completely ignored. Apparently there was quite a number of us who passed, and then were blanked.
This is hilarious (not really), but that exact same outcome happened to me, at the same time, somewhere back in mid 2010. Amateurs.
Anyways they can take there industry substandard Captain pay and see what they get for their offering. Good luck with that project.
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 08:12
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Originally Posted by Globally Challenged
Well that’s a massive F*** You to existing FO’s waiting for upgrade and the PICs of smaller fleet.

Nice way to motivate your crews in the run up to an inevitable busy period.
Sorry, but I think we all know that seniority and ability (or gently put experience) are two different things. Secondly, Vistajet might be looking to try their luck in attracting experienced and qualified Captains externally while there are still some looking (unemployed). I believe only a few of these will be looking to join VJ on the know conditions.
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 12:14
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Originally Posted by Klimax
Sorry, but I think we all know that seniority and ability (or gently put experience) are two different things. Secondly, Vistajet might be looking to try their luck in attracting experienced and qualified Captains externally while there are still some looking (unemployed). I believe only a few of these will be looking to join VJ on the know conditions.
Maybe so - but at least put them on the least favoured fleets and reward the loyalty of your existing PICs by bumping them up to the “aspirational” fleets (not aspirational for me as I’ve had my fill of long-range but you presumably get my point)
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 14:27
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Originally Posted by CW247
You guys are stuck in the past. Loyalty seldom grants an upgrade to a better fleet outside of the legacy carriers. VistaJet is not Air France.

Why would an airline pay for two type ratings, when they can hire someone directly and do away with the expense of one.
I think you’re missing the point there. They’re taking type rated FOs off of the Global and re typing them as PICs on the CLs. They are, in fact, incurring the expense of a new rating.

From speaking to crew at Vista the morale has hit rock bottom and they very much need to take some actions before there’s a mass exodus. Presumably quickly slotting in type rated experienced captains will take some of the workload off the very overworked (and underpaid) existing crews before they up sticks and move elsewhere.
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 14:41
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Originally Posted by CW247
Why would an airline pay for two type ratings, when they can hire someone directly and do away with the expense of one.
To ensure that they make their employees happy? They run the show, they are the face of the company in the world!

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Old 15th Jan 2022, 14:43
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Originally Posted by Klimax
Sorry, but I think we all know that seniority and ability (or gently put experience) are two different things.
Being eligible for an upgrade does NOT make you pass the evaluation, course and test automatically. Seniority is there to have a transparent system for everyone to know who else's turn it will be next. I am happy that my employer is applying seniority for these career moves and I wouldn't want it any way else.
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 19:59
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Regarding the 17 on/13 off, I understand you position on day 1 and day 17. Seems there are a lot of flights out of Luton and Farnborough. What if you live near London? Do they try to get you to start flying duty from one of these bases on day 1, or do you still get day 1 reserved for "positioning"? If so, is it the same for day 17?

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Old 15th Jan 2022, 20:32
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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts!
Being eligible for an upgrade does NOT make you pass the evaluation, course and test automatically. Seniority is there to have a transparent system for everyone to know who else's turn it will be next. I am happy that my employer is applying seniority for these career moves and I wouldn't want it any way else.
Did NJE follow the seniority list when they laid off pilots recently? - about a year or two ago or so. The seniority list is only worth something (ANYTHING) if the employer actually uses it - NJE didn´t in recent times - or perhaps my memory fails me..
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 20:35
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero
Regarding the 17 on/13 off, I understand you position on day 1 and day 17. Seems there are a lot of flights out of Luton and Farnborough. What if you live near London? Do they try to get you to start flying duty from one of these bases on day 1, or do you still get day 1 reserved for "positioning"? If so, is it the same for day 17?

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I have to say, personally I think this is one of the better things about VJ - the 17/13. If it works.
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Old 15th Jan 2022, 23:13
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Originally Posted by Klimax
Did NJE follow the seniority list when they laid off pilots recently? - about a year or two ago or so. The seniority list is only worth something (ANYTHING) if the employer actually uses it - NJE didn´t in recent times - or perhaps my memory fails me..
That's for the other thread, but I will answer in short (as I was affected myself by those "furloughs"): basically you are right and it caused a lot of outrage in 2020. The Falcon crews had to go as the company had decided to get rid of all Falcons and British law allows to do exactly this: get rid of people who are on this fleet outside seniority. The other 40-ish pilots, who also had to go, were selected by seniority from other fleets.

I am still strongly in favour of such a system, we are now 600+ pilots in Netjets, there's no other way, I am afraid.
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 05:01
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Regards the recent application for DEC - I see my status changed from “under review” to “Hidden”

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Old 18th Jan 2022, 09:13
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A bit like you?

Can I ask what date you applied? I applied on the 14th, still showing under review. Thanks
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Old 18th Jan 2022, 10:13
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 07:08
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Did you include a cover letter? The application page doesn't ask for one. It has very generic attachment options and you get to select 4 documents you feel are relevant, but I hear the Chief People Person likes a good cover letter.
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Old 19th Jan 2022, 10:04
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Interview

Anyone invited for the interview? What is your status? Good luck.
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Old 21st Jan 2022, 00:47
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Can anyone share some info on the questions asked in the first telephone interview? What is to be expected? You are welcome to DM me. Thanks!
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Old 28th Jan 2022, 08:56
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So, how many have been invited for an interview? You bizjet boys really know how to keep a secret!
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Old 1st Feb 2022, 15:17
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PFO, non-typed, only just meet their DEC requirements in terms of experience, no corporate experience.
Desperate to break into this industry!
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Old 3rd Feb 2022, 10:14
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Does anyone have information with regard to the Vistajet simulator check? From example type used, glass, clockwork, profile?
Many thanks
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