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Excuse me? During the first round of hiring we did not get close to the number we wanted, a lot of potential candidates politely declined our hiring-offer when they saw the contract. Of the current round of new hires not a single one has been released yet, but this is normal. Arthur, please don't do too much propaganda here. Netjets is a great place for us oldtimer captains, but not for new hires.
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As far as applications go, we did get far more than we wanted. However, the screening process whittled that number down quite a bit. I can check this week what the real numbers look like. Note that for the current recruitment, the window for applications will close at midnight 30 Nov.
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Hi all,
Some great info in this thread so thanks to everyone who's contributed. Just out of interest, I see the topic of command popping up but I wondered what the policy is within NJE with regard to fleet transfer? Is moving up the fleet size a relatively formal process and if one were to say move from the Phenom to the Challenger, would you drop to the bottom of the seniority list for command down the line?
Genuinely just interested to hear how it works.
Kind regards,
DL.
Some great info in this thread so thanks to everyone who's contributed. Just out of interest, I see the topic of command popping up but I wondered what the policy is within NJE with regard to fleet transfer? Is moving up the fleet size a relatively formal process and if one were to say move from the Phenom to the Challenger, would you drop to the bottom of the seniority list for command down the line?
Genuinely just interested to hear how it works.
Kind regards,
DL.
Hi DL,
no, seniority is seniority and that is independent from your fleet movements. It may be that a fleet move will be denied, because an upgrade is just around the corner.
no, seniority is seniority and that is independent from your fleet movements. It may be that a fleet move will be denied, because an upgrade is just around the corner.
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Thanks EMS,
Much appreciated. Good to know seniority doesn't change and interesting to hear the fleet move / upgrade perspective. NJE looks like a great opportunity for those in a position to apply.
Cheers!
DL.
Much appreciated. Good to know seniority doesn't change and interesting to hear the fleet move / upgrade perspective. NJE looks like a great opportunity for those in a position to apply.
Cheers!
DL.
As mentioned before, with the current contract, NJE might be a choice for younger, experienced pilots who have time to wait for an upgrade. The money and pension are not the greatest, but at least we have a private life. So I cannot recommend it fully to any pilot, because expectations might be differing from what you actually get.
Hi all,
Can anyone kindly say say what the pension is for a uk based pilot? I,e how much the company/employee contributes?
sadly not in a position to apply now (I’m military with a few years to go), but the 6/5 and variety is appealing. It’s not just about purely the money for me. Though it always helps!!
Many thanks.
Can anyone kindly say say what the pension is for a uk based pilot? I,e how much the company/employee contributes?
sadly not in a position to apply now (I’m military with a few years to go), but the 6/5 and variety is appealing. It’s not just about purely the money for me. Though it always helps!!
Many thanks.
Last edited by Private jet; 29th Nov 2018 at 18:50.
Hard to say. It all depends on current market conditions, fleet growth and the number of people leaving or retiring. You start off with a 2 year seat-lock, from there on you will be competing with others in the bids and that ranking is driven by seniority.
[QUOTE=Private jet;10323826]After a cushy number subsidised by your military pension no doubt. People like you sunshine are not the solution. You are part of the problem.[/QUOTE
Very constructive; bell end!
PP see #15. I suspect it will be different by the time you swop the colour of your suit.
Very constructive; bell end!
PP see #15. I suspect it will be different by the time you swop the colour of your suit.
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Wow!
Wow!
This creates a problem for those trying to apply economic pressure on companies to keep pay high. A distant cousin to those willing to P2F.
Just a thought...not taking a stand on either side. Just musing.
Last edited by bafanguy; 1st Dec 2018 at 11:14. Reason: yet more musing
bafanguy got it right. But I do not share Professor Plum's sentiment. The majority of our former military pilots are not riding the "I can take any low salary and always say YES"-train. There are some civilian pilots who always say YES and are willing to do anything. They will always exist on "both sides" - maybe because they are aware that they wouldn't land a medium to good job anywhere else.
Erm....
who actually said I’d have a pension immediately after leaving the military? I didn’t. These days you have to do 20 years to get one. I’m won’t be doing 20 years. Hence why I asked about the pension in the first place.
So what second income will I have when I leave? Answer: I won’t!
i was merely trying to find out more about what life’s like at netjets. And for the record-I won’t accept rubbish T&C’s. Like most experienced pilots, I’ll either stay where I am or look elsewhere.
who actually said I’d have a pension immediately after leaving the military? I didn’t. These days you have to do 20 years to get one. I’m won’t be doing 20 years. Hence why I asked about the pension in the first place.
So what second income will I have when I leave? Answer: I won’t!
i was merely trying to find out more about what life’s like at netjets. And for the record-I won’t accept rubbish T&C’s. Like most experienced pilots, I’ll either stay where I am or look elsewhere.
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General scheme is that coming from military you will get a form of pension, where at NJE there is virtually zero, especially if you happen to be fired ( same for loss of licence and other goodies, everything stops (if has not changed since 2013) )when you part with the company. Your health coverage is the same, once out, all gone , whatever your health condition, this is of course without counting for uncovered diseases that leaves you with zero virtually overnight.
Netjets was a great place when we get in early 2000; and for the one's that managed to stay it is great as well. Nowadays for new joiners, it is still a tad better than the **** flying around; but at the first downturn, you will be left with zero.
But operation is still easy, AFAIK, scheduling is at its best, tightly followed by travel I suppose.
Netjets is a league on its own, do not try to compare, it is impossible; get in there, go with the flow, follow the rules and this is it..
Netjets was a great place when we get in early 2000; and for the one's that managed to stay it is great as well. Nowadays for new joiners, it is still a tad better than the **** flying around; but at the first downturn, you will be left with zero.
But operation is still easy, AFAIK, scheduling is at its best, tightly followed by travel I suppose.
Netjets is a league on its own, do not try to compare, it is impossible; get in there, go with the flow, follow the rules and this is it..
