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Old 20th Nov 2017, 11:53
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Originally Posted by TURIN
For all of the keyboard warriors questioning the automatic deflation.

It is a regulatory requirement.
"The page you were looking for doesn't exist."

Of course the relevance of an FAA requirement for a british-registered airship under test in the UK is left as an exercise for the reader...

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Old 20th Nov 2017, 12:15
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Originally Posted by barry lloyd
Phew, thank you for that. We're not completely stuffed just yet, then.

Thanks also to TURIN for belatedly adding his link; most interesting to read about the extraction and storage process.
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 13:13
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Originally Posted by PDR1
Of course the relevance of an FAA requirement for a british-registered airship under test in the UK is left as an exercise for the reader...
The current version of EU 748/2012 does not contain any regulations about the design of airships, other than those of less than 1000 m^3 (for gas airships). But I may have overlooked something of course. The FAA does have a framework in place for certifying an airship of this size, of interest is that these regulations are based on the Transport Airship Airworthiness Requirements developed in Europe. With only a small number of airships of this size around, I wouldn't be surprised if any European or US projects are all using the same requirements, and with the FAA ones being based on the EU ones, they will most likely say the same thing about auto-deflation.

https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cer...airships_regs/
Transport Airship Requirements | The Airship Association
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Old 20th Nov 2017, 16:10
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Airlander | The Lyncean Group of San Diego

In Airlander 10, helium lift is controlled much like in a conventional blimp, using multiple ballonets located fore and aft in each of the hulls. A ballonet is a gas volume that can be inflated with air inside the main helium volume of the airship’s hull. Inflating a ballonet with air increases the mass of the airship and compresses the helium into a smaller volume, with the net result of decreasing buoyant lift. Inflating only the fore or aft ballonet will make the bow or stern of the airship heavier and change the pitch of the airship. These operating principles are shown in the following diagrams of a blimp with two ballonets shown in blue.

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Old 20th Nov 2017, 21:00
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What if animals were like Airlander. Go on have a laugh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=yltlJEdSAHw
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 00:16
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"We have paused for the time being collecting any payments in respect of the current fundraising and will be back in touch once we have determined our best course of action."
The damage assessment is expected to take "weeks" according to a spokesman.

From:- Airlander 10 'will be rebuilt' after collapsing at airfield.
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Old 21st Nov 2017, 06:24
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The lighter side (sorry )

It was possibly a rather unfortunate piece of scheduling that, on the day of the incident, the "Yesterday" channel chose to repeat an episode dedicated to the development and success of the Airlander.

Personally, I hope the venture succeeds. Feel free to show any innovative developments in aviation that have been flawless from the onset.
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Old 29th Nov 2017, 06:15
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Originally Posted by Andrewgr2
... balloon rigid. I’m sure emergency deflation would require venting most, of not alll of the helium and air. I m sure there is no way of compressing it. Imagine the size and weight of the cylinders! I seem to recall from my visit that the cost of the helium to fill it is about £250,000. They reckoned to replace about 10% each year. 😢 I guess they may be covered by insurance.
How much does it cost to fill an A380 with JetA1?
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 23:42
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The world's longest aircraft detached from its moorings and collapsed after a locking mechanism was not inserted correctly, a report has said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-44798529
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Hybrid Air Vehicles Ltd are now overdue in filing their company accounts. I wouldn't have thought that they had made many sales or purchases this last year so perhaps they are thinking how best to issue a positive statement about the future. I still think that it is not an investment for orphans or widows.
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