Best Electronic Pilot Logbook

[nick2012]

That is enough for me as well! i have been with MCC since 2008 and now i just switched to Logten Pro and i am absolutely happy since it is reliable and more customizable.

Since the Major update of the MCC 5.0 nothing seems to work as before , countless bugs everywhere in both mac OS and iOS applications. It is a complete mess. I really regretted the money i gave them for the update in May. Guys just stay away!

[Banana Joe]

Another update is due. When they do something good it should be said, not just the bad things. They acknowledged all the bugs and after a few days, they seem to have been fixed with today's update.

[Intrance]

Originally Posted by Banana Joe

Another update is due. When they do something good it should be said, not just the bad things. They acknowledged all the bugs and after a few days, they seem to have been fixed with today's update.

I'm not sure that counts as doing something good though... First break it, then get credit for fixing it? Does not work like that where I come from, and should probably not try that in the cockpit either :P.

[bohpilot]

I am now stuck where MCCPilotlog will not run under OSX Catalina. I cannot access the program to even transfer the license and database even if I wanted to, I have to access my logbook as I have a interview and they need the last 5 pages, im stuffed. My only choice to to format an old MacBook I have into an older version of OSX to just access Mcc, what crap.

[Xpact]

Hey Guy´s,

because of all the errors of version 5.2, does anybody has the installation file of version 5.0 for Windows?
Or maybe you can upload it somewhere and send me the link?
Thanks!
Greetings from Austria

[Xpact]

Hey Guy´s,

does anybody has the installation file of version 5.0 of Crewlounge Pilotlog?
Version 5.2 doesn´t work, all of my datas are erased and I want to restore my backup, which is not possible with version 5.2.
Can you send me the file, or upload it anywhere and send me the link please?
Thanks - Greetings from Austria

[Journey Man]

hi Chris,

The problem with this is that Excel gets quite cumbersome with a lot of rows of data. I created my own Excel spreadsheet based on the Jepp pro pilot logbook layout. There are a few additions I.e. it calculates great circle distance between places purely for my amusement. It also auto calculates night time and night takeoff/landing based on location of takeoff and landing, but this requires new destinations to be added with coordinates and that list sorted. I find my solution easy to keep tidy, but I could see how it would come apart for someone else. Really, some form of database, such as in FileMaker Pro might be a better open source solution.

Originally Posted by chrisk96

After reading these 9 pages of agony of what is good or bad, who is evil etc... I conclude that LogTen Pro is the safest way to go if you want to safely keep track of your logbook with all the bells and whistles. Downside, it cost 130,- a year if you want to take full option (Mac/iphone/ipad). roughly 11,- a month. And you are hooked to Coradine (even sounds like a kind of drug).

Guess all the apps have an O'leary factor build in. Hook people and charge them after when they are really hooked.

Talking about bells and whistles.... Do we need all these extras?? Wind information, WX, runway info, connecting to colleagues.... we are talking about a logbook here.... There are enough apps that will show the same. Even my airline now provides good apps for that. It's just another way to stand out to competitor apps.

I saw a couple of interesting replies stating "what is wrong with a spreadsheet"?!
Years ago I've been flying with a captain who took out his mini laptop (probably still with windows 98 installed) on every sector typing in the the crucial logbook info in Excel. It took him 30 seconds to do that.

So in 2019 with Excel and Numbers still around, wouldn't it be nice to take out your smartphone/tablet and enter your crucial logbook entries in a spreadsheet (Excel/Pages) and having it synced thru iCloud or whatsoever when you land. Having 100% ownership. Totally FREE!! for life guaranteed. Takes a couple of seconds.
The only thing that has to be done is to build a nice working template by some spreadsheet gurus among us. Maybe this template will be even a standard in the future and by wish can be imported by Logten or MCC. Of course I realise you cannot store photos of collegues, signatures and live WX info in the sheet.... but again I personally am not looking for that in a logbook.

I hope there are some fellow pilots around who share the same idea and want to look together into this.

Regards!
ChrisK

[JezusNut]

CrewLounge PilotLog is rubbish

Just adding my vote in here to tell people to stay away from this company. Since giving them my money 2 months ago it still doesn't do the basics like print out an accurate logbook. Their support would have to be the worst I have ever dealt with. Every time I see an update I completly uninstall everything, refresh the database with a new export out of my (once-reliable) mccPilotLog and cross my fingers..still not fixed.

I also love the way they say they don't support mccPilotlog but they still are slipping updates out to it. The once reliable mcc is starting to show a few cracks in it now as well. I guess that's what you do when you want people to move to your new product. I'll be moving alright....not to them!

[greatupstairs]

It's fraudulent, a scam. If CrewLounge can respond to a pre-sales request within 48 hours in my case, promise that there is a migration path before the sale and yet have no migration path from Mac OS Catalina (as the product will not load) and support refuses to engage (despite 5 emails to them and even using social media now to contact them), then their ONLY interest is taking money and not delivering the service. That's the definition of a fraud. What a huge waste of cash for the supposed lifetime licence. Utter bullsh*t.

[Capt Under Pants]

Don't get Crew Lounge. Still unable to use after a month. Its crap. Other people have also said numerous issues and wish they hadn't swapped over from MccPilot Log.

[Sleepybhudda]

In defence of CrewLounge PILOTLOG I spent an afternoon transferring it from mccPILOTLOG to a 64 bit Mac Pro Catalina IOS. It took some reading and re-reading of support documents but it is now working fine. With some new features not available before on mccPILOTLOG. If you had a lifetime subscription the €74? €94 changeover does bite. But hey it does work as advertised.....so far!

[greatupstairs]

Originally Posted by Sleepybhudda

In defence of CrewLounge PILOTLOG I spent an afternoon transferring it from mccPILOTLOG to a 64 bit Mac Pro Catalina IOS. It took some reading and re-reading of support documents but it is now working fine. With some new features not available before on mccPILOTLOG. If you had a lifetime subscription the €74? €94 changeover does bite. But hey it does work as advertised.....so far!

Am intrigued, how did you get mccPILOTLOG to open on Catalina (which it cannot as its a 32 bit program on a 64 bit OS) so that you can extract the logs to migrate? That's where my migration halted.

[Sleepybhudda]

I had an old version of mccPILOTLOG on a previous windows laptop. So I updated that from the cloud, converted the database for new version and transferred the licence. I then opened up the Catalina Macpro and checked it could see the converted data and that the licence was valid. It then opened it updated and seemed okay from there. One or two tweets after that. Hope that helps.

[JezusNut]

CrewLounges Refund Policy

I wouldn't trust them...this is their refund policy!

"You may cancel your paid subscription at any time. We have a no-refund policy. Refunds are only issued if required by law. For example, individual users living in the European Union have the right to cancel their paid subscription within 14 days of signing up for, upgrading to or renewing a paid account.

In case the Software or the Services are defective, we shall offer support and try to fix the defect, without any guarantees or obligations. You cannot obtain any refund when a part of the Services is defective or is removed. Paying for the Services issues an electronic user license only, no physical goods are shipped.

You understand and you agree that we may stop the Services at any time, without reason, without prior notice and without any refund or restitution."

I asked for a refund weeks ago but like the support its been radio silence.

Shame, it was such a good product.

[jackal.pl]

Guys, looking for help. Till last month I was using MCC v4.0, after my PC crash I cannot download from anywhere installation file for mccpilog log v4 (i have licence). Support via ticket or facebook do not respond from 2 weeks. Looking for any help.... Thanks in advance.

[chopper2004]

Avion Log

Happy New Year all, btw I am starting to use a new system called Avionlog ....and wondering if anyone else is using this?

https://www.avionlog.com

cheers and for those of you in Rotorhesds, see you in a week and bit.

[chopper2004]

Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123

I only read the last few pages but I was wondering what other free/cheaper electronic logbooks are good?

I use LogTen pro (£7.99 a month) with RosterBuster at the moment.
i used to use crewconnect for roster download but got rid of it last year when it stopped working.

Hi there,

Well I only pay £40 for yearly subscription on iPhone and iPad for my Avionlog electronic logbook. Also you can transfer your LogTen Pro to AvionLog.

cheers

[TheWrightBrother&Son]

Hello fellow ppruners,

Mcc pilotLog stopped importing from the airline portal several months ago, it's constantly giving back a 'time out error' (even with the slow connection box checked). I was waiting some time ( months) to see if it was recovering (since also the airline is constantly changing access to their portal, adding new layers of passwords, protections, pins and more passwords ...), then recently I sent an email to Mcc pilot log team just to receive a very annoying answer that they stopped upgrading this product and asking me to migrate to the new one and pay for the privilege, action that I will not do: what about the lifetime membership that I already paid once?! So they lost one client. My question now is:
Is there a way to import flights from a database file (CSV) downloaded by AIMS to MCC pilotLog? There is this function but I can not make it works, is anyone using the program this way?
If I switch to LogTen will I be able to collect easily the flights from MCC pilotLog database?
What a mess. Do not upgrade and pay for the new software! These people do not stand by their own words.
Maybe it is just better to start rock carving all my future flights block times, in an ancient Egyptian fashion way. Off to look for a nearby cave...

[Citationcj2]

In reply to your question as I was in the same boat and since MCC pilot log has become a subscription based log book, I might aswell transfer to logten pro for little bit more, but genuinely 100% better and more user friendly software.

There is some info on logten pro website how to migrate and essentially you only need the export and then import the excel file.

However, I suggest you first edit the columns in the excel file so you can better integrate into Logten pro.
It took me about an hour of editing, importing then deleting again and importing again untill I got the result I wanted.

You can run a log ten pro trial and transfer all your stuff across before you buy anyway so that will give you an idea of what’s involved.

[TheWrightBrother&Son]

Thanks Cj2, I will give Logten pro a try. Otherwise, I will revert to ink and paper. A bit tired of the whole concept of software that label itself as 'from pilots to pilots'