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Old 27th Oct 2019, 21:24
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 122
cannot recommend mcc anymore. Some months ago, all over sudden some of my flights were only partially synced to my mobile devices. And database (pilots) as well. I am emailing to them since months, sent screenshots, they reply with huge (weeks!) delay, problem is not solved. Once they replied I need to delete and re-install the app. Thank you, I did, since then everything is gone (on my mobile). I am really p****d, will watch this space and probably change soon.
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Old 8th Nov 2019, 13:55
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Amantido
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Version 5.2 is out and what was supposed to fix bugs in version 5.0 turned out to be something worse. The desktop app lags and random remarks are placed in the remarks section of the logbook when I generate a pdf printout.

My patience has come to an end and I am looking for another alternative on Android, and I am willing to give up the digital signature feature.
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Old 10th Nov 2019, 11:23
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Greece
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That is enough for me as well! i have been with MCC since 2008 and now i just switched to Logten Pro and i am absolutely happy since it is reliable and more customizable.

Since the Major update of the MCC 5.0 nothing seems to work as before , countless bugs everywhere in both mac OS and iOS applications. It is a complete mess. I really regretted the money i gave them for the update in May. Guys just stay away!
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Old 12th Nov 2019, 21:26
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Join Date: Jan 2018
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Another update is due. When they do something good it should be said, not just the bad things. They acknowledged all the bugs and after a few days, they seem to have been fixed with today's update.
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Old 13th Nov 2019, 01:24
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Europe
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Originally Posted by Banana Joe View Post
Another update is due. When they do something good it should be said, not just the bad things. They acknowledged all the bugs and after a few days, they seem to have been fixed with today's update.
I'm not sure that counts as doing something good though... First break it, then get credit for fixing it? Does not work like that where I come from, and should probably not try that in the cockpit either :P.
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Old 14th Nov 2019, 22:39
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: boh
Age: 56
Posts: 60
I am now stuck where MCCPilotlog will not run under OSX Catalina. I cannot access the program to even transfer the license and database even if I wanted to, I have to access my logbook as I have a interview and they need the last 5 pages, im stuffed. My only choice to to format an old MacBook I have into an older version of OSX to just access Mcc, what crap.
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Old 24th Nov 2019, 20:53
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Austria
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Hey Guy´s,

because of all the errors of version 5.2, does anybody has the installation file of version 5.0 for Windows?
Or maybe you can upload it somewhere and send me the link?
Thanks!
Greetings from Austria
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Old 25th Nov 2019, 17:12
  #208 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Austria
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Hey Guy´s,

does anybody has the installation file of version 5.0 of Crewlounge Pilotlog?
Version 5.2 doesn´t work, all of my datas are erased and I want to restore my backup, which is not possible with version 5.2.
Can you send me the file, or upload it anywhere and send me the link please?
Thanks - Greetings from Austria
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Old 27th Nov 2019, 21:29
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 319
hi Chris,

The problem with this is that Excel gets quite cumbersome with a lot of rows of data. I created my own Excel spreadsheet based on the Jepp pro pilot logbook layout. There are a few additions I.e. it calculates great circle distance between places purely for my amusement. It also auto calculates night time and night takeoff/landing based on location of takeoff and landing, but this requires new destinations to be added with coordinates and that list sorted. I find my solution easy to keep tidy, but I could see how it would come apart for someone else. Really, some form of database, such as in FileMaker Pro might be a better open source solution.

Originally Posted by chrisk96 View Post
After reading these 9 pages of agony of what is good or bad, who is evil etc... I conclude that LogTen Pro is the safest way to go if you want to safely keep track of your logbook with all the bells and whistles. Downside, it cost 130,- a year if you want to take full option (Mac/iphone/ipad). roughly 11,- a month. And you are hooked to Coradine (even sounds like a kind of drug).

Guess all the apps have an O'leary factor build in. Hook people and charge them after when they are really hooked.

Talking about bells and whistles.... Do we need all these extras?? Wind information, WX, runway info, connecting to colleagues.... we are talking about a logbook here.... There are enough apps that will show the same. Even my airline now provides good apps for that. It's just another way to stand out to competitor apps.

I saw a couple of interesting replies stating "what is wrong with a spreadsheet"?!
Years ago I've been flying with a captain who took out his mini laptop (probably still with windows 98 installed) on every sector typing in the the crucial logbook info in Excel. It took him 30 seconds to do that.

So in 2019 with Excel and Numbers still around, wouldn't it be nice to take out your smartphone/tablet and enter your crucial logbook entries in a spreadsheet (Excel/Pages) and having it synced thru iCloud or whatsoever when you land. Having 100% ownership. Totally FREE!! for life guaranteed. Takes a couple of seconds.
The only thing that has to be done is to build a nice working template by some spreadsheet gurus among us. Maybe this template will be even a standard in the future and by wish can be imported by Logten or MCC. Of course I realise you cannot store photos of collegues, signatures and live WX info in the sheet.... but again I personally am not looking for that in a logbook.

I hope there are some fellow pilots around who share the same idea and want to look together into this.

Regards!
ChrisK
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 07:13
  #210 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 11
Angry CrewLounge PilotLog is rubbish

Just adding my vote in here to tell people to stay away from this company. Since giving them my money 2 months ago it still doesn't do the basics like print out an accurate logbook. Their support would have to be the worst I have ever dealt with. Every time I see an update I completly uninstall everything, refresh the database with a new export out of my (once-reliable) mccPilotLog and cross my fingers..still not fixed.

I also love the way they say they don't support mccPilotlog but they still are slipping updates out to it. The once reliable mcc is starting to show a few cracks in it now as well. I guess that's what you do when you want people to move to your new product. I'll be moving alright....not to them!
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Old 3rd Dec 2019, 23:54
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Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: UK
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It's fraudulent, a scam. If CrewLounge can respond to a pre-sales request within 48 hours in my case, promise that there is a migration path before the sale and yet have no migration path from Mac OS Catalina (as the product will not load) and support refuses to engage (despite 5 emails to them and even using social media now to contact them), then their ONLY interest is taking money and not delivering the service. That's the definition of a fraud. What a huge waste of cash for the supposed lifetime licence. Utter bullsh*t.
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 01:58
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: My arse crack
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Don't get Crew Lounge. Still unable to use after a month. Its crap. Other people have also said numerous issues and wish they hadn't swapped over from MccPilot Log.
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 15:41
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: UK
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In defence of CrewLounge PILOTLOG I spent an afternoon transferring it from mccPILOTLOG to a 64 bit Mac Pro Catalina IOS. It took some reading and re-reading of support documents but it is now working fine. With some new features not available before on mccPILOTLOG. If you had a lifetime subscription the €74? €94 changeover does bite. But hey it does work as advertised.....so far!
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 16:48
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Join Date: Dec 2019
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Originally Posted by Sleepybhudda View Post
In defence of CrewLounge PILOTLOG I spent an afternoon transferring it from mccPILOTLOG to a 64 bit Mac Pro Catalina IOS. It took some reading and re-reading of support documents but it is now working fine. With some new features not available before on mccPILOTLOG. If you had a lifetime subscription the €74? €94 changeover does bite. But hey it does work as advertised.....so far!
Am intrigued, how did you get mccPILOTLOG to open on Catalina (which it cannot as its a 32 bit program on a 64 bit OS) so that you can extract the logs to migrate? That's where my migration halted.
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Old 7th Dec 2019, 13:00
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: UK
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I had an old version of mccPILOTLOG on a previous windows laptop. So I updated that from the cloud, converted the database for new version and transferred the licence. I then opened up the Catalina Macpro and checked it could see the converted data and that the licence was valid. It then opened it updated and seemed okay from there. One or two tweets after that. Hope that helps.
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