Flexjet Europe starts up

[Son of a Beech]

I guess it's official now, althoug I'm not sure how they will compete with Netjet's 100+ European aircraft with 8 Nextant 400Xti

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...n-ops

Question is: Which European airline will they buy?

[Delta12]

Did they not try before already ?

[Son of a Beech]

Flexjet before was owned by bombardier. They tried for a short time I Europe as well. The company was then sold to a private investor who also in the USA bought flight options and now they want to try Europe again and with their own words compete with netjets.

[Global_Global]

The worst aircraft Netjets ever flew was the Hawker 400XP and the new competitor is flying a updated second-hand version of that aircraft? They have to be veeerrrryyy cheap to compete with a new Phenom300.

[wondering]

Downsizing in the US and trying for a second time in Europe. Doesn´t sound very promising. Anyhow, very curious which company will be Flexjet´s partner. I can only think of a handful flying Beechjets/Nextants based mainly in Eastern Europe.

[maxed-out]

Why does the operator being bought need to operate an existing Nextant fleet to make it viable? You're looking too far East wondering.

[Booglebox]

If FlexJet operate VistaJet's American flights, perhaps VistaJet will operate FlexJet's European flights?
Also, I hear that the aircraft will have refurbished interiors. Probably a bit cheaper to operate than a Phenom 300 too.

[wondering]

Right. I somehow read too much between the lines. The article just mentiones any AOC.

[keebird]

Originally Posted by Booglebox

If FlexJet operate VistaJet's American flights, perhaps VistaJet will operate FlexJet's European flights?

Vistajet's American partner is Jet Aviation and unrelated to Flexjet/FlightOptions/Onesky.

[Fried_Chicken]

Question is: Which European airline will they buy?

Flairjet

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...-expansion-bid

FC

[mutt]

Interesting, are there that many Hawker 400 pilots in Europe?

[Son of a Beech]

There where some ex NJE pilots that got fired (France and Belgium) but doubtful if they are still jobless. Then again a hawker/beech 400 rating takes 2 weeks at FSI Farnborough

[dreamlinerguy]

Interesting, are there that many Hawker 400 pilots in Europe?

There's about 6 of us in the uk.

There where some ex NJE pilots that got fired (France and Belgium) but doubtful if they are still jobless. Then again a hawker/beech 400 rating takes 2 weeks at FSI Farnborough

Rating takes 3 weeks, did it about 18 months ago

[Son of a Beech]

Originally Posted by dreamlinerguy

Rating takes 3 weeks, did it about 18 months ago

2 weeks, 3 weeks. Potato, potato. The point is it doesn't take months or years to train a Beech 400 pilot.

[fairflyer]

It's basically a jazzed-up Mitsubishi Diamond so a 38 year old platform with new engines and new avionics - nothing really wrong with that, worked for the Hawker 125 for 50 years.

However, pitched against say a Phenom 300, its decades apart in design terms.

[CL300]

and a BFL of a 747...NOt talking about the LDR...Space shuttle was the only competitor..

[dreamlinerguy]

Potato Patato... Very few type ratings take longer than 3-4 weeks.... So what was your point?

[Son of a Beech]

Originally Posted by dreamlinerguy

Potato Patato... Very few type ratings take longer than 3-4 weeks.... So what was your point?

That it isn't the worlds greatest crisis that there aren't that many rated and unemployed beech/Nextant 400 pilots in Europe.

[dreamlinerguy]

Very true, i'd assume they'll send crew to Dallas to do the Nextant 400 initial, or differences course anyways. Be interesting hearing more about this as it develops

[Old Boeing Driver]

Rice Rocket?

I thought the MU-2 was dubbed the Rice Rocket. Maybe the "M" model?