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Old 6th Aug 2019, 18:51
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Don't think there's an XLS sim at FSI in Farnborough either!
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 19:55
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XL.........
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 21:21
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Originally Posted by OvercloudsPullUp View Post
Looks like commander salary is around 75/80K + per diem

Lucky him.
Lucky him?
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 09:22
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Selection process includes SIM session in Farnborough FSI on Citation XLS, Learjet 40 or similar. This is a great tip!
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 12:26
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Citation XLS
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Old 7th Aug 2019, 21:11
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Again: there is NO Citation XLS simulator in Farnborough, it's just a veeeeeeeeeery old Citation XL simulator.
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 04:43
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CAE Burgess Hill...
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Old 8th Aug 2019, 07:36
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I had a telephone interview with them and was told they are reviewing their salary package for both FO and captain. I was not given exact figures but was led to believe that an FO will at the very easy make 60 - 70K in Euros in their first year and possibly even higher, captains will be over 100K their first year.

As for the interview, quite straight forward talking about yourself, your understanding of corporate aviation and FlexJet. Understanding corporate aviation as opposed to airline flying is very important to them , cant emphasise that enough.

TMAAT Questions (Tell me about a time) and your career goals and whats important to you. Pretty straight forward really.

As for future plans they are definitely expanding with some pretty big goals in mind along with an increase in fleet size and aircraft size.
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Old 9th Aug 2019, 14:30
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Would anyone be willing to share the contract terms ? (salary/roster/etc..)

Thanks
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 11:36
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Originally Posted by no nonsense View Post
Would anyone be willing to share the contract terms ? (salary/roster/etc..)

Thanks
​​​​​​From what I've heard PPJN is correct. Not sure if it's going to improve
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Old 15th Aug 2019, 13:19
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I'm only going off what I've been told by people working there.
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Old 21st Aug 2019, 18:09
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They have the so called "red label" program, basically a career path, where a pilot will be chosen to lead a specific airplane and that one only, and a team of 4 more captains. The choice will be done based on merits and is a big recognition as they will fly with the most important customers and have some special benefits like doing their own roster. According to the company's preferences, seems like all the aircraft which are taking part of the red label program will belong to the Gulfstream family.
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Old 21st Aug 2019, 18:14
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Is this happening in Europe though? They have a pretty small operation at the moment.
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 19:45
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Flexjet Europe is hiring FOs and CPTs for Nextant and Legacy in Europe. I applied and got my interview scheduled for next week.
How did the interview go? Any info you can share about their plans, contracts and intreview process?
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Old 22nd Aug 2019, 23:45
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Originally Posted by Son of a Beech View Post
2 weeks, 3 weeks. Potato, potato. The point is it doesn't take months or years to train a Beech 400 pilot.
How long does it take to train a Boeing(737/757/767/787/747) pilot to train on antique aircraft(except the 787 maybe, do not know that one, but the 737/NG/MAX most certainly belong to that class)? Or Airbus, Bombardier, Jungle Jet(known also as Embraer)? Exactly, MAXIMUM 5 weeks. So what is your point here? Learning to "drive" a certain jet does not take very long, especially the more experienced pilots among us.

Which aircraft takes YEARS to master in your humble opinion? A blackbird? Even that one did not take that long....

So or so. It sounds interesting. But I am SO done with that GA BS that for sure I do not fall for that one anymore. "Red label" crap is just another way to catch another wave of blind believers. Happy with my 5/4 airline roster and do not want to hear any of this GA lies anymore....
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Old 23rd Aug 2019, 18:58
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Originally Posted by tomuchwork View Post
How long does it take to train a Boeing(737/757/767/787/747) pilot to train on antique aircraft(except the 787 maybe, do not know that one, but the 737/NG/MAX most certainly belong to that class)? Or Airbus, Bombardier, Jungle Jet(known also as Embraer)? Exactly, MAXIMUM 5 weeks. So what is your point here? Learning to "drive" a certain jet does not take very long, especially the more experienced pilots among us.

Which aircraft takes YEARS to master in your humble opinion? A blackbird? Even that one did not take that long....

So or so. It sounds interesting. But I am SO done with that GA BS that for sure I do not fall for that one anymore. "Red label" crap is just another way to catch another wave of blind believers. Happy with my 5/4 airline roster and do not want to hear any of this GA lies anymore....
My point was that dreamlinerguy was splitting peas if it would take 2 or 3 weeks for a typerating while the general point was that a new typerating course doesn’t take long and that the unavailability of typerated pilots shouldn't be hindering for starting up a for a new operator.

Please read all the posts before commenting something that was explained already
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Old 24th Aug 2019, 09:52
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But what’s the roster/rotation they offer?
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Old 24th Aug 2019, 10:20
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On linkedin it was stated 7/5, from them directly I got info 6/4 in summer and 6/5 in winter...bit confusing
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Old 25th Aug 2019, 10:22
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I interviewed there recently. I did the sim first on a Citation XLS I think, cant remember but it was one of those smaller corporate jets. They do not give you a profile before you arrive but give a fairly thorough briefing before you go to the sim. A bit of a funky aircraft but was fun to fly. My sim and my partners went well, we were both pretty accurate on what we did.

The day started off with us showing up at 8.15am, meeting the HR lady Sarah and another line captain who talked to us about the company, day to day issues and answered any questions we had. The final salary for both CA and FO is still in negotiation but was told it will be finalised this coming week and would be told how much.

After the sim we had about a 30 min break to have a drink of water and some lunch which they paid for, rather nice of them and made us feel welcome and relaxed all day.

Then we had the face to face interview, took us one at a time for about an hour each. All in all the day was about 6 hours long for 2 candidates to be interviewed and completed. We were bone by 2.30pm

Face to face was about getting to know you and how you think, what are your priorities in aviation, putting the customer first, safety and some tech questions like approach ban, fuel requirements, gen failures and how you have dealt with bad situations in the past and your understanding of corporate aviation.

The sim consists of a climb out, clean up at acceleration altitude, get to 4000, steep turns, climb and descend at 1000fpm and 200 knots, an ILS and a V1 Cut. Really not as bad as it sounds and they are very understanding, know you have not flown that plane and make it clear they are not looking for IFR TEST STANDARD but they do expect you to identify mistakes and correct them.

Like any other sim assessment, can this guy be trained and does he learn from mistakes, is there progress etc? The rotation is 7 on and 5 off with travel on day 1 and 7, never on your off days, so basically 6 nights away and 6 nights at home if you include day 7 which is your go home day.

Overall I think it is a very fair interview and they are straight forward and honest with you.

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Old 25th Aug 2019, 11:11
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Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic View Post
I interviewed there recently. I did the sim first on a Citation XLS I think, cant remember but it was one of those smaller corporate jets. They do not give you a profile before you arrive but give a fairly thorough briefing before you go to the sim. A bit of a funky aircraft but was fun to fly. My sim and my partners went well, we were both pretty accurate on what we did.

The day started off with us showing up at 8.15am, meeting the HR lady Sarah and another line captain who talked to us about the company, day to day issues and answered any questions we had. The final salary for both CA and FO is still in negotiation but was told it will be finalised this coming week and would be told how much.

After the sim we had about a 30 min break to have a drink of water and some lunch which they paid for, rather nice of them and made us feel welcome and relaxed all day.

Then we had the face to face interview, took us one at a time for about an hour each. All in all the day was about 6 hours long for 2 candidates to be interviewed and completed. We were bone by 2.30pm

Face to face was about getting to know you and how you think, what are your priorities in aviation, putting the customer first, safety and some tech questions like approach ban, fuel requirements, gen failures and how you have dealt with bad situations in the past and your understanding of corporate aviation.

The sim consists of a climb out, clean up at acceleration altitude, get to 4000, steep turns, climb and descend at 1000fpm and 200 knots, an ILS and a V1 Cut. Really not as bad as it sounds and they are very understanding, know you have not flown that plane and make it clear they are not looking for IFR TEST STANDARD but they do expect you to identify mistakes and correct them.

Like any other sim assessment, can this guy be trained and does he learn from mistakes, is there progress etc? The rotation is 7 on and 5 off with travel on day 1 and 7, never on your off days, so basically 6 nights away and 6 nights at home if you include day 7 which is your go home day.

Overall I think it is a very fair interview and they are straight forward and honest with you.
Thank you for your feedback Daddy Fantastic and good luck! May I ask where did the interview take place?
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