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Old 4th Jul 2015, 23:10
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Instruct in selfowned plane?

Hello!

Do many EASA instructors instruct from their own aircrafts?

It would give a lot more flexibility for both the instructor and the student, it would also make it easier to have as a full-time job.

Any taughts?😃
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Old 5th Jul 2015, 14:49
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I would like to sepeculate, that it doesn't make any sense, firstly as instruction needs to be done via a registered ATO (Flight School, Aero Club etc...).

Of course a single instructor could go and open a flight school i.e. register his/her ATO at the authority, however this involves all legal obligations and requirements plus insurance.

Secondly I doubt it would be viable or feasible to abuse your own private aircraft for this purpose - because you need the ATO in any case so you might as well run the airplane under the ATO and not privately or offer an existing ATO to utilize it for training.

Last but not least, I doubt it would be feasible to make a living, not even to mention to finance your own aeroplane.

Why take such a risk ?
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Old 5th Jul 2015, 15:55
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Let's do the maths..

Aircraft rental would cost somewhere around 170 with instructor.

Let's say the aircraft is flown 2 hours a day with instructor 46 weeks of the year.

170 x 6 days a week = 1020

1020 x 46 weeks = 46 920

Would ownership of a basic C150 reach those prices?

Maybe it's a bit optimistic,but surely it can be possible ?
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Old 5th Jul 2015, 16:37
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How much will you have to pay the CAA for approvals, how much for maintainence, 50hr checks, annuals, hangarage, fuel, insurance (for ab-initio instruction)... Zero-houring the engine if it's out of hours or older than 12 years or whatever other bullshit EASA wants this week that the FAA or Transport Canada don't bother with...?
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Old 5th Jul 2015, 19:07
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adamlouis - unfortunately your math is totally wrong as there are many factors missing in your equation and things such as fuel, maintainance, insurance cover are not for free (as sapperkenno has pointed out).

What about income and other taxes ?

Using your calculation, you could probably subtract 120 per hour overheads from your 170 - rather leaving you with 300 a week or 13800 per annum before taxes. You would have to work a lot to cover the initial cost of your aeroplane. You have to start thinking more like a businessman than an aviator...

Do you know what it costs to put a C152 in a proper hangar ? Oh - you what to park it outside, but I doubt that will be free and will surely reflect on the maitainance bill sooner or later.

As I tried to explain before - as an instructor it does not suffice to just get an aeroplane and start instructing with it - in order to get this, you need a training programme, a training syllabus and operations manual to receive an ATO approval - which all cost time and money. This would be the equivilent of founding your own school. Most small schools are suffering currently - I know of at least one that is trying to sell their ATO (which even includes an own AMO approval) already for 5 years and they can not find a serious buyer.

So either you get more planes into the fleet and cheap instructors trying to get hours to expand your small profit or you find a flying club which consists mostly of voluntary staff on weekends to keep the price/h as low as possible.
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Old 5th Jul 2015, 19:20
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I used to rent a C150 from someone who used it for instruction. As well as ab initio stuff he also did more advanced instruction (eg. IMCR) and instructor experience flights for PPLs. I have no idea how his finances worked out but, for me, it was the cheapest 2 seater flying around at the time.
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