Crash in Finland 20 april
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Reports are that part of the left wing separated at approx 4 kilometres altitude.
Having done many para drops I wonder if the guys were hanging off the wing.
Furthermore I see it 'reported' that the pilot survived by jumping out. I have never worn a parachute in my life. As the captain I would go down with the ship doing my best for all on board.
there is a rumour flying around that there was a baby onboard.
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Exascot different countrys.
I have sat many a time watching that aircraft go up with a beer sitting on the sun balcony. And then the meat bombs land next to the short runway.
They do lots of tandem drops.
Its a really nice field and a centre for the local community it will hit them very hard and my thoughts are with them.
I might add I didn't see anything dodgy about the aircraft operation when I was there. In fact the whole thing seemed quite sensible with the LZ well away from the active runway with a short walk to the packing shed, then a short walk down to the apron on the other runway. I did see the plane close up and externally she looked as if she got alot of TLC.
Was even thinking about going for a jump with them.
O well its a wait for the report time again to see what failed.
I have sat many a time watching that aircraft go up with a beer sitting on the sun balcony. And then the meat bombs land next to the short runway.
They do lots of tandem drops.
Its a really nice field and a centre for the local community it will hit them very hard and my thoughts are with them.
I might add I didn't see anything dodgy about the aircraft operation when I was there. In fact the whole thing seemed quite sensible with the LZ well away from the active runway with a short walk to the packing shed, then a short walk down to the apron on the other runway. I did see the plane close up and externally she looked as if she got alot of TLC.
Was even thinking about going for a jump with them.
O well its a wait for the report time again to see what failed.
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Couple of facts:
-no baby
-8 fatalities, 2 female and 6 male
-3 survivors, of which one is pilot. All used parachutes.
-comp air 8, oh-xdz
-local tv(mtv3) has obtained footage of the a/c falling down. In this footage it's clearly visible that part or all of one wing is missing.
-jumping from 4km is normal.
source is local news and flightforum.
-no baby
-8 fatalities, 2 female and 6 male
-3 survivors, of which one is pilot. All used parachutes.
-comp air 8, oh-xdz
-local tv(mtv3) has obtained footage of the a/c falling down. In this footage it's clearly visible that part or all of one wing is missing.
-jumping from 4km is normal.
source is local news and flightforum.
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thanks for that. Do you have a link to the video?
Found it
http://www.mtv.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/ar...oimia-/3174490
Found it
http://www.mtv.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/ar...oimia-/3174490
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Not my find, was on another PPRuNe thread which I am unable to locate quickly enough.
Edit: beaten to it by someone who probably can understand the text in his/her link, too ;-)
Not my find, was on another PPRuNe thread which I am unable to locate quickly enough.
Edit: beaten to it by someone who probably can understand the text in his/her link, too ;-)
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There's smoke coming from the plane?
Hard to see 100% if part of the wing is missing. What's the maximum of the wing that could be gone before the plane becomes uncontrollable?
Hard to see 100% if part of the wing is missing. What's the maximum of the wing that could be gone before the plane becomes uncontrollable?
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-piece of wing was found 500m away from the main wreckage.
- All fatalities were found inside the wreckage, which was totally burned.
Speculation:
"smoke" in the video is most probably kerosene leaking.
- All fatalities were found inside the wreckage, which was totally burned.
Speculation:
"smoke" in the video is most probably kerosene leaking.
Last edited by jiggi; 21st Apr 2014 at 14:19. Reason: speculation
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It is but you can use it for none public transport uses.
Similar to gliding tugs.
Again with this sort of stuff its very country dependent what they have allowed in the past and it may very well be different to what's allowed or used in our own country. There is still the ability to grandfather dispensations in EASA as we have done in the UK.
Similar to gliding tugs.
Again with this sort of stuff its very country dependent what they have allowed in the past and it may very well be different to what's allowed or used in our own country. There is still the ability to grandfather dispensations in EASA as we have done in the UK.
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Aircraft was club owned, non-commercial and experimental.
More information from the head of the crash investigation board:
-wing might have broken but stayed attached to frame
-just reaching exit altitude, pilot experienced longitudinal control problems and a/c went into dive
-emergency exit was decided
- All survivors exited through pilots door
-last survivors spare parachute deployed immediately after exit
-main jump door was never opened
More information from the head of the crash investigation board:
-wing might have broken but stayed attached to frame
-just reaching exit altitude, pilot experienced longitudinal control problems and a/c went into dive
-emergency exit was decided
- All survivors exited through pilots door
-last survivors spare parachute deployed immediately after exit
-main jump door was never opened