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As part of a growing suite of noise- and pollution-control measures, France’s Nice Cote D’ Azur Airport will invest in the installation of a new underground power system that will reduce business jets’ dependency on auxiliary power units on the ramp. The system, the first of its kind in Europe, provides hatches under each aircraft engine start-up stand for access to a centralized power and heating/cooling system, greatly reducing the number of APU operation hours, as well as reducing exhaust emissions. The $2.7 million project is expected to begin this summer. The airport authority plans to impose a special fee on business aviation to fund such noise- and pollution-reduction projects. “In this way, business aviation will contribute solely to reducing the noise pollution it makes,” the airport authority stated in a release.
My understanding is the new rule will only allow 5-10 minutes of APU usage before departure.
My understanding is the new rule will only allow 5-10 minutes of APU usage before departure.
It warms things up when they're cold and cools them down when they're hot.
Makes the apple thunderbolt 2 cable look pretty dated.
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Presumably you two have left your senses of humour elsewhere.
GC, do biz jets not allow conditioned air from a ground unit, what do you do if your APU bleed isn't working?
GC, do biz jets not allow conditioned air from a ground unit, what do you do if your APU bleed isn't working?
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Spandex. No they don't. If the APU isn't working and it gets hot, so do we. If you are in a small cabin jet or turboprop you won't have an APU anyway - high summer and mid winter you will cook/freeze and be writing the tech log at night with a torch in your mouth. Oh, the glamour....
Most business jets start on electric power, not bleed air so a GPU or battery will do the job of getting the engines going if necessary.
Most business jets start on electric power, not bleed air so a GPU or battery will do the job of getting the engines going if necessary.
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Originally Posted by Trim Stab
Originally Posted by Lord Spandex Masher
It warms things up when they're cold and cools them down when they're hot.
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Spandex,
Yes, if you are in heavy metal you might be able to avail yourself of this wonderful new facility. Take a look around the parking areas at Nice though. I'm guessing that maybe 70 percent of visiting aircraft won't be able to use it. Sounds like the authorities are still going to make them pay for it all the same.
It's the usual NIMBY south of France attitude. The rich and shameless want to fly in there in their private jets but don't want to be disturbed by their neighbours doing the same thing. The authorities of course, will listen to the well heeled minority that line their pockets. It's all for the good of the environment of course....
Yes, if you are in heavy metal you might be able to avail yourself of this wonderful new facility. Take a look around the parking areas at Nice though. I'm guessing that maybe 70 percent of visiting aircraft won't be able to use it. Sounds like the authorities are still going to make them pay for it all the same.
It's the usual NIMBY south of France attitude. The rich and shameless want to fly in there in their private jets but don't want to be disturbed by their neighbours doing the same thing. The authorities of course, will listen to the well heeled minority that line their pockets. It's all for the good of the environment of course....
centralized power and heating/cooling system,
I'm an engineer and I had a good laugh at this one.
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Nice does not nothing about Bizjets, at all... If something is in service at Kilo, i bet it will 400Hz, and an Air Con nozzle that will fit an Airbus..
Running 28v along taxiways and such, taking into consideration the various location of GPU sockets is an engineering monster in itself, plus the quasi non-existence of Air con external plugs on GA airplanes. I see it as a good laugh next time a very well trained yellow man ( plus the inevitable blue men AKA gendarmerie) will try to use these devices.
Please , NICE, prove me wrong !!!!
Running 28v along taxiways and such, taking into consideration the various location of GPU sockets is an engineering monster in itself, plus the quasi non-existence of Air con external plugs on GA airplanes. I see it as a good laugh next time a very well trained yellow man ( plus the inevitable blue men AKA gendarmerie) will try to use these devices.
Please , NICE, prove me wrong !!!!
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I was wondering about ground air inlets on private metal. As already stated, I would have imagined BBJ/ACJ and bigger would have them as standard as conversion from regular metal would suggest... But was not sure about what else would/could have them.
Out of interest, do they come as standard on anything such as Falcon/Global?Challenger/GS etc...?
I disliked flying into NCE on commercial service... Doubt I will enjoy it if I ever fly there on private service either.
Out of interest, do they come as standard on anything such as Falcon/Global?Challenger/GS etc...?
I disliked flying into NCE on commercial service... Doubt I will enjoy it if I ever fly there on private service either.
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I find it hard to believe Nice would waste 2.7 million on something that nobody would, or could, use.
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Grum You can attach external air to the Falcons and this will give you air-conditioning. . . . . . so maybe it's only for French planes.