Longhaul Routes with Mid-sized BJ's
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Longhaul Routes with Mid-sized BJ's
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I should be much obliged if someone could provide me with a typical routing from Zurich to Sao Paulo Brazil for a mid-size BJ such as a Challenger 300.
Approximate flight times as well as any opinions about long over-water stretches in a BJ would also be appreciated.
This is for a write-up I am doing for someone unfamiliar with general/business aviation and who is wondering about the practicalities of using a mid-size BJ for longhaul flights once every 6-8 weeks.
I should be much obliged if someone could provide me with a typical routing from Zurich to Sao Paulo Brazil for a mid-size BJ such as a Challenger 300.
Approximate flight times as well as any opinions about long over-water stretches in a BJ would also be appreciated.
This is for a write-up I am doing for someone unfamiliar with general/business aviation and who is wondering about the practicalities of using a mid-size BJ for longhaul flights once every 6-8 weeks.
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Yup, Sal, alternate Dakar has worked for me in a G200 on this route. If the plane is even more Range-challenged, Zurich-Tenerife-Recife-Sao Paolo would work as a 2-stop strategy.
The challenge on those legs is crew rest. If commercial, having to position crew to the intermediate stop messes with the cost-advantage over using a larger jet.
Private, it's do-able with a one-stop flight, but becomes a bit irresponsible by night of with 2 stops...
And no, it's not a good idea to try carrying enlarged crew on rest seats in a mid-size jet with paying passengers..
For approximate flight times, use the great circle program available online: insert a TAS of around 450 knots and add 10-15 minutes per leg for arrival/departure: wind is usually not a huge factor on these North-South sectors...
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The challenge on those legs is crew rest. If commercial, having to position crew to the intermediate stop messes with the cost-advantage over using a larger jet.
Private, it's do-able with a one-stop flight, but becomes a bit irresponsible by night of with 2 stops...
And no, it's not a good idea to try carrying enlarged crew on rest seats in a mid-size jet with paying passengers..
For approximate flight times, use the great circle program available online: insert a TAS of around 450 knots and add 10-15 minutes per leg for arrival/departure: wind is usually not a huge factor on these North-South sectors...
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It's about 5:50 + 6:45 via Sal.
If you are not willing / able to charter a long range jet then I recommend First Class with Swiss, Zürich direct Sao Paolo. 12 hour flight overnight both ways, about CHF 6-7000 one way. Not sure but I guess you would be paying about CHF 5500-6000 per hour for a CL300, perhaps a bit less if you commit to buying a block of hours from a single operator.
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If you are not willing / able to charter a long range jet then I recommend First Class with Swiss, Zürich direct Sao Paolo. 12 hour flight overnight both ways, about CHF 6-7000 one way. Not sure but I guess you would be paying about CHF 5500-6000 per hour for a CL300, perhaps a bit less if you commit to buying a block of hours from a single operator.
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"Sal" in this context is the place name, not the designator.
Sal, Cape Verde - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Designators are:
IATA: SID
ICAO: GVAC
Sal, Cape Verde - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Designators are:
IATA: SID
ICAO: GVAC
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Wiggy, thank you for the clarification.
The Cape Verde - Recife leg is a fair distance over water. What standard safety equipment do most business jets carry on such flights?
The Cape Verde - Recife leg is a fair distance over water. What standard safety equipment do most business jets carry on such flights?
