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Been reading this Report regarding a Lear crash in Denmark recently. Amazed that we in Europe see "Ghost Pilots" who disregard rules & regs to such a degree.
In short the pilot thought to be a mexican pilot was in fact a internationally wanted Iranian without a pilot license. He held two false US licenses and flew the Lear as single pilot!
Ran out of fuel and crash on short approach having neglected to switch to another fuel tank with fuel...
The Lear's airworthiness certificate expired 2005!
Where is aviation heading when this is still possible?
Been reading this Report regarding a Lear crash in Denmark recently. Amazed that we in Europe see "Ghost Pilots" who disregard rules & regs to such a degree.
In short the pilot thought to be a mexican pilot was in fact a internationally wanted Iranian without a pilot license. He held two false US licenses and flew the Lear as single pilot!
Ran out of fuel and crash on short approach having neglected to switch to another fuel tank with fuel...
The Lear's airworthiness certificate expired 2005!
Where is aviation heading when this is still possible?
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How often had FBOs seen him off single pilot? I know it's "not their job" but you'd have thought that someone, in all those years...
But far more importantly this represents an appalling breach of Security. Here are the rest of us uniformed licenced checked to the limit pilots flying fully accredited airliners being searched, groped, fingered, touched up and turned over on a daily basis by the "security" staff, our lives are regulated by officious and largely useless paranoid legislation, we are locked into our cockpits and generally treated like potential criminals all day long and here is an unlicenced IRANIAN illegally flying an unlicenced plane for YEARS single pilot and "no one has noticed".
Is it me or is this a horrific failing in view of the security situation we are all (all but unlicenced Iranians apparently) subjected to? It gives me no faith whatsoever in the usefulness of "security" if someone with such a blatantly hazardous profile gets away with this for so long.
Frankly I'm staggered this hasn't caused an international uproar. But perhaps, actually, no one outside the shareholders of the "security" industry really cares? Least of all our slippery teflon coated politicos.
But far more importantly this represents an appalling breach of Security. Here are the rest of us uniformed licenced checked to the limit pilots flying fully accredited airliners being searched, groped, fingered, touched up and turned over on a daily basis by the "security" staff, our lives are regulated by officious and largely useless paranoid legislation, we are locked into our cockpits and generally treated like potential criminals all day long and here is an unlicenced IRANIAN illegally flying an unlicenced plane for YEARS single pilot and "no one has noticed".
Is it me or is this a horrific failing in view of the security situation we are all (all but unlicenced Iranians apparently) subjected to? It gives me no faith whatsoever in the usefulness of "security" if someone with such a blatantly hazardous profile gets away with this for so long.
Frankly I'm staggered this hasn't caused an international uproar. But perhaps, actually, no one outside the shareholders of the "security" industry really cares? Least of all our slippery teflon coated politicos.
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Not entirely something new. I once knew a flying instructor and owner of a flying club who lost his medical certificate due to heart problems but carried on flying and instructing.
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Not my area (I'm Airbus), but this specific a/c was two pilot ops. The pax was first thought to be a co pilot but was later identified as pax.
BTW: The fuel tank he neglected to switch over to, only contained 160L...
BTW: The fuel tank he neglected to switch over to, only contained 160L...
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Is it me or is this a horrific failing in view of the security situation we are all (all but unlicenced Iranians apparently) subjected to?
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Frightening, A319. Out of interest, is the Lear a mandatory two pilot a/c flown privately?
If properly registrated and operated in Germany it requires 2 guys licensed and rated.
Its you. Or have you seen all car drivers checked before driving if they are properly licensed?
Also, we all know we have to carry our licence (amongst other things) and I have had it checked several times a year (yes - maybe I just have one of those faces ....
) - this happens particularly when operating into the US and in some of the smaller French fields (not a proper SAFA but just as a security check)
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No, but in a pub you could expect a barman to remove the keys of a driver who is clearly drunk.
I would like to maintain the status of "innocent until proven guilty".
Ag bis mentioned the "FBO" - to the best of my knowledge there is no FBO in Schönhagen where the airplane was based. And if an FBO would like to see my licence I´d be reluctant to show it to them. Not their business. Period.
What I want to say is:
beware what you wish for.
1984 is way beyond us and still people want more stringent rules, more observation/oversight etcetc. Scary.
Also, we all know we have to carry our licence (amongst other things) and I have had it checked several times a year
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Just a question to the moderators: Why has this thread been moved to "Biz Jets, Ag Flying, GA etc."?
Do you really think that only our segment of the market has pilots with fake paperwork?
Do you really think that only our segment of the market has pilots with fake paperwork?
I recently finished some freelance flying with a British company. At no point did they ever ask to see my licence or medical.
My licence and medical were valid throughout the contract because I am diligent and careful, but nevertheless I was surprised that they never even bothered to check.
I happen to know that one of the other contractors who still flies for them does not have a medical, nor is even rated on the class.
My licence and medical were valid throughout the contract because I am diligent and careful, but nevertheless I was surprised that they never even bothered to check.
I happen to know that one of the other contractors who still flies for them does not have a medical, nor is even rated on the class.
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My licence and medical were valid throughout the contract because I am diligent and careful, but nevertheless I was surprised that they never even bothered to check.
I happen to know that one of the other contractors who still flies for them does not have a medical, nor is even rated on the class.
I happen to know that one of the other contractors who still flies for them does not have a medical, nor is even rated on the class.
I take it was not commercial ops you did ?
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I happen to know that one of the other contractors who still flies for them does not have a medical, nor is even rated on the class.
If said driver is arrested for DUI (which is sort of a bad example since one can usually see when someone is real drunk, apart from seing who is a licence holder and who isnt) will the landlord get a ticket? Or should rather all other drivers be required to do an alcohol test before driving?
If you (as an FBO - or anyone else who may be aware) see a single pilot operating a multi-pilot type, then maybe you would consider what the consequences of just a pilot flying your family or taking their jet over the house of your family.
If I saw it and was certain this was happening then I would certainly make it known to the tower / authorities to prevent them getting airborne.
Donnu how that is handled in the UK, but if I lend my car I have to check if the person has a valid licence. If an accident happens and the drivers got no licence, sh.it hits the fan for me as an owner...
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Having passed through 4 UK commercial operators, I had ALL my documents scrutinised before I was able to operate.
I happen to know that one of the other contractors who still flies for them does not have a medical, nor is even rated on the class.
