Big Redundancies Coming at Netjets?
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Yes same parent company owns Flight Safety but why does that make any difference to how they fly a jet than someone self funded or through another organisation?
If I compare my current status (not at NJE, but using FSI for the annual refresh) with that of mine before I could use the sim, then IŽd say, yes it does make a difference.
Still, a lot is in the attitude towards learning and in the first place admitting that one can learn something. If you think you're a skygod, then all the training in the world won`t change you. VV, if you have the best of attitudes but never see a sim, you can`t know certain things...
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I am no engineer but christ, backfiring engines like that has to be something of a wake up call!
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Sorry, was referencing more that NJE pilots may think they are more accredited than others based on the same ownership with Berkshire Hathaway, not intending to devalue sim based training which is one of the best training methods outside obviously being actually in the sharp end!
In regards to yesterday NJE had one of their CS-DFE from memory (could be wrong) was on the ramp running and one of the engines was making a terrible metal on metal sound like a bearing had gone or something, throttled up and began spluttering and backfiring seemingly. There were 5 of us that just stopped and looked and all looked fairly bemused. Crew throttled up and down again and an enormous cough and a bang again!
Like i said, I dont know if this is normal or can happen, either way I would have been hesitant boarding!
In regards to yesterday NJE had one of their CS-DFE from memory (could be wrong) was on the ramp running and one of the engines was making a terrible metal on metal sound like a bearing had gone or something, throttled up and began spluttering and backfiring seemingly. There were 5 of us that just stopped and looked and all looked fairly bemused. Crew throttled up and down again and an enormous cough and a bang again!
Like i said, I dont know if this is normal or can happen, either way I would have been hesitant boarding!
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Like i said, I dont know if this is normal or can happen, either way I would have been hesitant boarding!
Our engines do rattle when spinning down, never fails to get the attention of new passengers...
Just a little story: I once took delivery (not mine!) of a brand new Challenger 300, flew it over (7 hrs) and had an oil chip detect message after landing and the engine had to be exchanged. Total time on this engine: 25 hrs.
Asked the Honeywell tech rep, he said this is unheard of with this engine. Checked the engine logbook of the exchange engine, which said that it was removed for an oil chip detect... these things happen and are by no means a sign of bad maintenance. (although very rarely in jet engines)
I do know some guys in NJE and I believe they would not take an unsafe aircraft out flying.
In fact, NJE seemed to be a bit over the top in this respect IMO, given some stories they told me about occasions when they ferried in replacement aircraft - which is a good thing.
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Never was any question over teching an aircraft (or being asked to 'delay' writing down anything until you reach a certain airport). Also no questions asked over a crew calling fatigued etc.
NJE had/have a highly professional safety culture - no requirement to be 'flexible' with the rules like I have found elsewhere.
NJE had/have a highly professional safety culture - no requirement to be 'flexible' with the rules like I have found elsewhere.
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In fact, NJE seemed to be a bit over the top in this respect IMO, given some stories they told me about occasions when they ferried in replacement aircraft - which is a good thing.