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Old 25th Nov 2012, 10:28
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A couple more of G-AVRG in her later re-incarnation as G-OHEA in the hanagar at Hatfield when operated as Hatfield Executive Aviation (Rogers). The shot from the balony shows some other interesting aircraft.

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Old 25th Nov 2012, 12:25
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G-AWXO 25178 owned by Mohammed Al-Kharafi I think this picture was in Heraklion around1983/4. The aircraft didn't have much range and the flight back to Luton took us two stops.
I looked after this for a couple of years in Kuwait but it did little flying except for the 28 day currency flight to Bahrain.

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That's a nice photograph of HTF Martin. I see G-SEBE was at one time a Jointair aircraft. Also G-BHKP was this the Cessna Conquest belonging to the AA? Or was that G-AUTO? I also note HS 125-700B G-BJDJ Aravco then to FJC?
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G-SEBE was G-ZONE with Jointair back in 1981.
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Hi
At the time of the picture SEBE was owned by Seibe Public Ltd in it's earlier life it was owned by GAMA as G-CJET. I did my first Learjet annual flight test in this with Ian Cooper taking down all the data etc, very Interesting!!

G-BJDJ started life with Consolidated Contracters
Then to Aravco who changed the Registration to G-RCDI
Then back to G-BJDJ with FJC. It did move to Russia and is now RA-02802.

G-BHLP was originally owned by the AA and then operated by Rogers Aviation before being sold to the US.
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Mike Echo: Many thanks for your investigative work in revealing HB-VAY which, I am certain, was the craft in question. Also for the great shots from Hatfield.

Gaunty: Thank you for your information regarding paintings, this is something I shall certainly explore. Thanks too for your Aussie reminiscences!

Robbreid: Great shot of VAY and which helped to further confirm the identify of the 'Burton/Taylor' jet.

Some contemporary nostalgia:


Cessna 560 N681CE stops to uplift fuel from the small regional airport of Skagit near Mt. Vernon in Washington State in the USA c. 2005

A Merry Christmas to all executive jet nostalgia enthusiasts!
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Canadian nostalgia:


A fine 1960's photographic example of an HS 125-400A, CF-CFL, as seen at Toronto's LB Pearson Airport in February 1969 (Photo: Mike Ody courtesy of George Trussell)

Any additional details on this aircraft are welcomed.
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The Late Mike Ody - and his awesome photo collection
Biography of Mike Ody

Aircraft above CF-CFL Hawker 400A 25193 would have been brand new!, when this photo was taken, Aircraft was owned by Churchill Falls (Labrador) Corporation also known as CFLoo - a hydro electric company based in Newfoundland, Canada.

Unfortunately this aircraft crashed on approach to Wabush Airport, Newfoundland when the pilot performed an instrument approach using the wrong beacon.

The crash killed all 8 on board. Incidentally, this aircraft was replaced with another new Hawker 400A also CF-CFL 25213 - Which crash at Chruchill Falls Airport Newfoundland, also with the loss of all 8 on board - when the pilots - landing at night, mistook lights as the runway and landed 1 1/2 miles short of the runway.

PS: And - the photo is taken on the Innotech Hangar at YYZ, the background is the old Carl Millard - Millardair Hangars.

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Late Mike Ody awesome photo collection
CF-WDU HFB 320 Hansa Jet of Millardair (Late Carl Millard) seen here at Toronto International Airport on the Millardair Ramp. Aircraft was eventually replaced with a brand new Citation 500!!!, C-GOCM .

This aircraft was sold to Clinton Corp in New York as N666LC and still visited YYZ often, however it ended it's career as N171GA and now as a dive attraction at Portage Quarry near Bowling Green Kentucky. photos.

HFB 320 HANSA JET

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Hey, you can't just post a picture of Millard's Hansa Jet and not include The Story.
The pilots of the famous "Gimli Glider," who in July 1983 landed their Air Canada Boeing 767 at Gimli, Man., after it ran out of fuel, were simply following (Carl) Millard's example. He's believed to be the first person ever to "dead-stick" a commercial jet to a safe landing.
"And that was in the dark, in a snowstorm, in cloud," his son Wayne told the Star yesterday.
Millard was flying a twin-engine Hansa jet, a 10-seater with a full load, from St. John's to Toronto on a December night in 1973. As the plane flew over Moncton, contaminated fuel caused both engines to fail.
With only a few instruments working, the plane entered cloud at 30,000 feet. Millard had to calculate his gliding speed and angle of descent to stay on track for Moncton airport. When the Hansa broke out of the dense, low-lying cloud, it was only 200 feet above ground with the runway right ahead.
Carl Millard-93-Pioneering pilot

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Old 4th Jan 2013, 02:52
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Second I saw your reply I knew what the story was!!! Nice posting !!

CF-WDU didn't really fly that often, but loved having her around - sad when he sold it. Great time, no fences, rare security - we used to get hitchhikers on Kilo taxiway in the Skyport area of YYZ!!!
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G-TTFN - Citation Ultra 1991 I just done the acceptance and we were about to fly it back to the UK. It was originally going to be registered G-FLOP! Owned under a company name of Corporate Administration Management and Operated by FJC out of Fairoaks.

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If I remember rightly, wasn't G-TTFN owned by a former "Nissan GB" employee, and the result of some creative accounting?
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Yes it was.

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Robbreid: What a great shot of the Hansa Jet and what a unique and thoroughly intriguing aircraft. I would love to hear some feedback about her handling qualities from someone that has flown the type!

More Gulfstream nostalgia ..


Rio Tinto Zinc's Grumman G1159 Gulfstream II (cn. 91) G-AYMI as seen at Gloucester's Staverton Airport on 7th May 1971 (Photo: Keith Harper)

Word is that this craft went on to fly for the late Robert de la Maxwell!
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Yes Savoia, it became VR-BRM for Robert Maxwell:

Gulfstream II, VR-BRM, Private
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M E,

TTFN, those were the days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CF-WDU HansaJet - unfortunately the owner the Late Carl Millard - his son Wayne just recently passed away - or I would have got him to tell you about the Hansa.

I used to work for Innotech, so CF-WDU was our neighbour - we also used to get the odd American Hansa visiting.

Here is a rare bird, anybody remember the story on this Gulfstream II XA-FOU - a famous off airport landing in Ireland!!!

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Another great Mike Ody collection photo;

1966 Field Aviation ramp at YYZ - Kenting Aviation's brand new Jet Commander 1121 CF-KBI,

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Very vague about XA-FOU but have some memory.
Is this the one that landed at a Racecourse due to "lack of fuel" but was eventually flown out, after considerable work I presume on a temporary runway)?
I don't remember ever seeing any details, early 80's ?
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