HAWKER 900xp

[M-ONGO]

all the competitors are unable to go full-fuel-full-pax. CL 300, G200, G250, Sovereign- all the same.

If you are thinking of buying a new aircraft and money is not the issue, I would think of a Hawker 4000. Full-pax-full-fuel, and the luggage problem of the HS125 definetly solved. But don't buy one of the first serial numbers. And make sure that the new, redesigned toilet is available.

How can you compare a Hawker to a CL300, G200, G280? They are in different leagues, speed, range, cabin, hold, costs... Oh and possibly now product support.

[TBM-Legend]

We are looking at Hawker 900XP late production machine. Interested in pros/cons and reliability. Is the de-ice system a major issue eg...

[redsnail]

TBM, I've been flying the Hawker around Europe and Russia for about 9 years now. It's a tough reliable machine. It'll suit Australia nicely.

The TKS is not the worlds best system but it does work. Use the stuff intelligently and in accordance with the AFM etc, you'll be fine and you shouldn't run out.
Where people go wrong with the stuff is not priming it for weeks on end and wondering why the seals etc let go. Also, some folks get super nervous and use it at the hint of a cloud and wonder why the stuff runs out...

If you're going to be operating remotely, carry 2 x 5 litres of TKS 80 (ok for carriage in the cabin) and you're good.

[vodka_gorbachev]

Originally Posted by redsnail

Where people go wrong with the stuff is not priming it for weeks on end and wondering why the seals etc let go. Also, some folks get super nervous and use it at the hint of a cloud and wonder why the stuff runs out...

I will sign under each sentence.
You should prime system at least once per week during summer for aprox. 5 minutes. We never have any problems with our TKS system on 6 years old airframe.
And yes, wrong understanding of environment weather leads to TKS runs out very vastly as stated above.