Jet Air Flug/Imperial Jet
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If you read the whole thread, messers Challidriver, Farfarlina, Myself and Lear60fellow all allude as to what the problem is with part of this company. The fact that i choose to use the word allegedly, is no different from putting "without prejudice", or "i heard a story" or "rumour has it that"...... on the top of the post. (if i so choose)
Its pretty obvious what the issues are from reading just the posts from the above mentioned people.
OK just to clarify, My buddy was owed in excess of $18,000 (pay and expenses combined) and the promise was when he came back to work for them again he would get paid in full.....after he had forked out another $xx,xxx in expenses no doubt. He had to get very nasty to get his money but he got it.....eventually (7 months later) This sentence is just an example of the claims made by the other posters. Im sure everyone has their stories but the fact is, it was so eloquently explained in principal without the need for specifics in the previous posts.
Now, yes i am overly sensitive about companies that take advantage of the people that they choose to use to help them fulfil their mission statement. The people that have done the research on this company have spoken very loudly on this thread so comments such as;
........."That response has as much validity as:
Good company, join them. I have that from a good source"..........
Is just plain dumb within the context of the whole thread
If you want to know what the issues are, read the thread. Dont wind people up by replying to one particular post when its patently obvious what the problem is.
Lets roll up the sleeves is a metaphor and the intention is that if you or anyone else wishes to defend imperial jet, be very wary of the fact that allegedly your honour :-) there are people here that have not been paid, are still fighting to get paid, may have been paid eventually etc etc etc that might just wish to bite your head off!!!!!!
Regards
GW
Its pretty obvious what the issues are from reading just the posts from the above mentioned people.
OK just to clarify, My buddy was owed in excess of $18,000 (pay and expenses combined) and the promise was when he came back to work for them again he would get paid in full.....after he had forked out another $xx,xxx in expenses no doubt. He had to get very nasty to get his money but he got it.....eventually (7 months later) This sentence is just an example of the claims made by the other posters. Im sure everyone has their stories but the fact is, it was so eloquently explained in principal without the need for specifics in the previous posts.
Now, yes i am overly sensitive about companies that take advantage of the people that they choose to use to help them fulfil their mission statement. The people that have done the research on this company have spoken very loudly on this thread so comments such as;
........."That response has as much validity as:
Good company, join them. I have that from a good source"..........
Is just plain dumb within the context of the whole thread
If you want to know what the issues are, read the thread. Dont wind people up by replying to one particular post when its patently obvious what the problem is.
Lets roll up the sleeves is a metaphor and the intention is that if you or anyone else wishes to defend imperial jet, be very wary of the fact that allegedly your honour :-) there are people here that have not been paid, are still fighting to get paid, may have been paid eventually etc etc etc that might just wish to bite your head off!!!!!!
Regards
GW
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GW,
Point taken. But reading through the whole topic, only the posts of Challidriver (although short but clear) and yourself have useful information about the situation with that company.
The fact is that there is a gap between replies in this topic of more then 6 months where things inside the company could have changed. Management or investor changes can either have a positive or more negative impact.
The question to Farfallina is to find out if she had new information or simply relying on older info.
That was the question before you jumped on me back.
With regards, BL
Point taken. But reading through the whole topic, only the posts of Challidriver (although short but clear) and yourself have useful information about the situation with that company.
The fact is that there is a gap between replies in this topic of more then 6 months where things inside the company could have changed. Management or investor changes can either have a positive or more negative impact.
The question to Farfallina is to find out if she had new information or simply relying on older info.
That was the question before you jumped on me back.
With regards, BL
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Why is the issue of payment the only concern here? No one seems to mention 'grey charters', lack of OPC's, SEP training, certain crews previously flying aircraft with invalid validations, scant regards to FTL, the list is endless... Best stay away from this shower of sh*te. Outfits like this are taking the p*ss out of the decent operators that are out there and hanging on in these turbulant times.
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Is this company really that bad????
Does anyone know what the package is like that they are offering?
Do they offer rotation? and if so do they stick to them?
I also heard they have an operation in Beirut does anyone have any information about this?
Does anyone know what aircrafts they have at the moment?
Thanks in advance
Angeleyes.
Does anyone know what the package is like that they are offering?
Do they offer rotation? and if so do they stick to them?
I also heard they have an operation in Beirut does anyone have any information about this?
Does anyone know what aircrafts they have at the moment?
Thanks in advance
Angeleyes.
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OK, thanks.
Now my original questions still stands:
- Does anyone know what the package is like that they are offering?
- Do they offer rotation? and if so do they stick to them?
- I also heard they have an operation in Beirut does anyone have any information about this?
- Does anyone know what aircrafts they have at the moment?
Thanks in advance
Angeleyes
Now my original questions still stands:
- Does anyone know what the package is like that they are offering?
- Do they offer rotation? and if so do they stick to them?
- I also heard they have an operation in Beirut does anyone have any information about this?
- Does anyone know what aircrafts they have at the moment?
Thanks in advance
Angeleyes
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@ Farfallina; I think I found the answer in your Italian topic. You did some flights / worked for them and you did not get payed, correct? Why don't you ask if someone knows a good lawyer in Germany. Not sure if that is going to work, meaning you had a Lebanese contract and JetAir is a German company. But it might be worth to talk to a lawyer about that.
Hope your ( and all the other) situation gets resolved.
With regards BL
Now your postings make a little more sense
Hope your ( and all the other) situation gets resolved.
With regards BL
Now your postings make a little more sense
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farfallina and all who are looking for a job and not finding never give the wrong information if you had no chance to start there don't make other people miss it. my advise good company surely not perfect but which company is ?? they pay and they are receiving new planes which not everybody can pretend to be able to do.
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I agree with farfallina, flylegacy is obviously pro jetair/imperial jet and on the inside. Very poorly run outfit, no regard for its supposed employees, some suspect personnell and alledged experience!!! It is a shame that these people think that they can carry on like they are and answering to no one. Well as they say, what goes around comes around, your witness.
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this is one of the few times Ive replied with ref to freelance payment.Having flown with many operators,Jetflug was the only company that would not pay the agreed terms.It took me six months to finally get reimbursed during which they had the ba##s to ask me to fly again!
I cant comment on any other aspects of the company as I had very little contact,though the aircraft I flew was Austrian registered and Im sure their base was Zweibrucken. I hear there is major expansion in Beirut ,where they have a BBJ and a 604.
Thats my tuppence worth!
I cant comment on any other aspects of the company as I had very little contact,though the aircraft I flew was Austrian registered and Im sure their base was Zweibrucken. I hear there is major expansion in Beirut ,where they have a BBJ and a 604.
Thats my tuppence worth!
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when your aource is a freelancer than it is always bad, freelancer are people that nobody wanted they always complain and have usually not the best skills. in my opinion companies investing millions of dollars in this case or other cases that just got a new owned multi-million dollar plan and have many on order are surely better reference than the talks of freelancer or people that didn't pass the interview. i have some friends flying there and they are happy, they changed management as the previous manager did not fullfill his job. the new management strong and a reference they have as ceo also Dr. wissel former ceo lufthansa private jet and i do not think such people would go to bad companies.
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...so we fail interviews and havnt got the "best skills"?15000 hrs. all with the major airlines over a 30 year career,I think Im in a good position to know what Im talking about.
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I am glad this information is out there it should stop most of the good people form being taken for a ride by management that do not care about their employees.
Take Care Safe Landings with a good company
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Take Care Safe Landings with a good company
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well i don"t know if you have access to the bank accounts also but sounds like you are having a problem with Germans and with Dr. Wissel, honestly i am just saying we should all be happy to have a Job, if you don't lik them don"t go there, i am also hearing that the company will only move forward with the committed owners behind as you stated. and if one day they feel Germany is the wrong base i am sure they would make a move, Have somebody heard about them buying DC aviation?
but sounds like you are having a problem with Germans and with Dr. Wissel, honestly i am just saying we should all be happy to have a Job, if you don't lik them don"t go there, i am also hearing that the company will only move forward with the committed owners behind as you stated. and if one day they feel Germany is the wrong base i am sure they would make a move, Have somebody heard about them buying DC aviation?
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If they do not pay this months Salaries, they may not have staff anyway, be aware anybody working freelance for this company!!!!!!!!!!!! 
You just cant help some people.
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You just cant help some people.
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Since when is Wissel in command, last I heard he was at Vista Jet. This guy moves around more than the circus. Is he that good or that bad?
Why are you giving freelancers a hard time - they usually do it by choice, then they can fly when and where they want and they earn more money.
Why are you giving freelancers a hard time - they usually do it by choice, then they can fly when and where they want and they earn more money.
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flylegacy, they will not understand this. I think i got the facts right from a friend of mine, who is flying there since years on the Lear 60. farfallina was freelancing for one flight and she was not properly dressed and she served tea done with cold water. She was removed after one day of freelancing. The other guy is a person who flys, harrasses the customer and tells him, that he would only fly the customer because the routing is matching his private needs.
I can understand that any company would have queries over bills for such free-lance services, but on the other hand it makes me angry, as such people are making life harder for us as pilots.
I can understand that any company would have queries over bills for such free-lance services, but on the other hand it makes me angry, as such people are making life harder for us as pilots.
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Zustand, if you are referring to myself(freelancer),then you are so sadly mistaken. Not only did I enjoy the trips I did but had a wonderful time with the company crews. So much so that I was asked to fly subsequently and had many a chat with a very pleasant admin lady who was apologetic to the companys payment "strategy".The customers are number ONE,and if any of us have a gripe with our employers then they are the ones with whom we will engage. Your "friend" brings us all to a level to which is professionally,truthfully,apalling.The issue here is payment for that professionalism which this company refuses to believe exists.
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This thread is cooking - I removed Chalidriver's reference to the owner's name & telephone number - it's not on to list individual's personal details on the forum.
Otherwise, make your deductions as to who is telling the truth & who is trolling with red herrings.
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Otherwise, make your deductions as to who is telling the truth & who is trolling with red herrings.
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