Ocean Sky buys major Stake of 3 Alpha
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Believe this a managed, and possible charter, aircraft for owners Timor Sadorov (OS) and Jonathan Faiman (Ocado), hence the initials in the reg.
OS doesn't 'own' aircraft. Some owners allow theirs for charter (generally G-OS## regs) while the rest are managed. Thus banks should not be interested in OS as risk is with owners.
OS doesn't 'own' aircraft. Some owners allow theirs for charter (generally G-OS## regs) while the rest are managed. Thus banks should not be interested in OS as risk is with owners.
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Oh I don't know, it's all about brand awareness and association isn't it? And after nearly 12 months, you're still talking about it, so it seems to have achieved it's goal! 
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Nearly right Monkey Lover typo there I think mate, it is in fact G-OCSH - Challenger 604 that was formally G-STCC. In work at Manchester at the moment, goes onto the fleet to be used for AOC charter in the next few days.
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Press Release - OS Update
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Ocean Sky explores field as new FBOs shape up in Spain
By: Charles Alcock
November 1, 2010
FBOs
Ocean Sky has its three new Spanish FBOs up and running in Ibiza, Menorca and Valencia and is planning to add more facilities in Spain. Meanwhile, the Italian element of the expansion plans it unveiled at the Ebace show in May has been delayed, but the company still hopes to open an FBO at an undisclosed airport in Italy next year.
The UK-based business aviation services group acquired the FBOs on the Mediterranean islands of Ibiza and Minorca and at Valencia on the mainland in May through its acquisition of Spain’s Aviation Handling Assistance. Since then it has completed a renovation of the facilities, which now share Ocean Sky branding, and it has retrained staff with a view to ensuring continuity of service through its growing network.
Ocean Sky CEO Stephen Grimes told AIN that it is actively engaged in discussions about a possible partnership with another company in one or two other locations. “Spain is quiet and has been hit quite badly [by the economic downturn], but this brings opportunities to consolidate,” he said, referring to serious problems in what is one of Europe’s weakest economies.
“When Ocean Sky took over the three [Spanish] FBOs, they were not being run efficiently or marketing themselves well outside Spain,” added marketing director Natalie Raper. “We have now built them on our UK model and they are fully joined up with the network.” The new FBOs are now benefiting from receiving traffic generated by Ocean Sky’s aircraft charter and management activities.
Also in May, Ocean Sky acquired Open Sky Italy, which is being run by Rossano De Luca as the UK group’s Italian subsidiary, concentrating for the time being on charter brokering and aircraft management. However, Ocean Sky walked away from a letter of intent-backed deal to buy an FBO called Euroloa in Bologna because it was not happy with the terms being offered. Grimes insisted that, despite significant local obstacles in terms of bureaucracy, Italy remains a key part of Ocean Sky’s growth strategy and it will pursue other opportunities there, including the anticipated FBO acquisition at “a major international airport in early 2011.
“[This] has been an exciting year,” said Grimes. “We have grown and expanded and made progress, but we have also been dealing with legacy issues from previous owners. There have been some things to correct, which has taken some management attention, but it has increased the understanding and support from shareholders, who have a strong commitment as we have been building a stable platform,” he added. Ocean Sky is owned by Belgian businessman Jean-Francois Cordemans and a Luxembourg-based investment fund.
In recent weeks Ocean Sky appointed Capt. Don Sigournay as its new director of flight operations. Other recent appointments include Lenny Gray to head its new aircraft interiors business; Gareth Cadwell as general manager for charter; and Richard Stock to run the aircraft management division.
Earlier in the year the company had expected to expand its managed fleet from 30 aircraft to 40, but it is now on track to end up with just under 50.
It has also been building its maintenance business at London Luton Airport, where it recently bought a hangar from Monarch Airlines.
In addition, it is working with Bombardier to have Luton designated an approved service center for the Canadian airframer, to match the capability it has at its Manchester base.
The company is also set to open a new sales office in Dubai.
Not much mention of the charter fleet types and numbers. Any updates out there?
Ocean Sky explores field as new FBOs shape up in Spain
By: Charles Alcock
November 1, 2010
FBOs
Ocean Sky has its three new Spanish FBOs up and running in Ibiza, Menorca and Valencia and is planning to add more facilities in Spain. Meanwhile, the Italian element of the expansion plans it unveiled at the Ebace show in May has been delayed, but the company still hopes to open an FBO at an undisclosed airport in Italy next year.
The UK-based business aviation services group acquired the FBOs on the Mediterranean islands of Ibiza and Minorca and at Valencia on the mainland in May through its acquisition of Spain’s Aviation Handling Assistance. Since then it has completed a renovation of the facilities, which now share Ocean Sky branding, and it has retrained staff with a view to ensuring continuity of service through its growing network.
Ocean Sky CEO Stephen Grimes told AIN that it is actively engaged in discussions about a possible partnership with another company in one or two other locations. “Spain is quiet and has been hit quite badly [by the economic downturn], but this brings opportunities to consolidate,” he said, referring to serious problems in what is one of Europe’s weakest economies.
“When Ocean Sky took over the three [Spanish] FBOs, they were not being run efficiently or marketing themselves well outside Spain,” added marketing director Natalie Raper. “We have now built them on our UK model and they are fully joined up with the network.” The new FBOs are now benefiting from receiving traffic generated by Ocean Sky’s aircraft charter and management activities.
Also in May, Ocean Sky acquired Open Sky Italy, which is being run by Rossano De Luca as the UK group’s Italian subsidiary, concentrating for the time being on charter brokering and aircraft management. However, Ocean Sky walked away from a letter of intent-backed deal to buy an FBO called Euroloa in Bologna because it was not happy with the terms being offered. Grimes insisted that, despite significant local obstacles in terms of bureaucracy, Italy remains a key part of Ocean Sky’s growth strategy and it will pursue other opportunities there, including the anticipated FBO acquisition at “a major international airport in early 2011.
“[This] has been an exciting year,” said Grimes. “We have grown and expanded and made progress, but we have also been dealing with legacy issues from previous owners. There have been some things to correct, which has taken some management attention, but it has increased the understanding and support from shareholders, who have a strong commitment as we have been building a stable platform,” he added. Ocean Sky is owned by Belgian businessman Jean-Francois Cordemans and a Luxembourg-based investment fund.
In recent weeks Ocean Sky appointed Capt. Don Sigournay as its new director of flight operations. Other recent appointments include Lenny Gray to head its new aircraft interiors business; Gareth Cadwell as general manager for charter; and Richard Stock to run the aircraft management division.
Earlier in the year the company had expected to expand its managed fleet from 30 aircraft to 40, but it is now on track to end up with just under 50.
It has also been building its maintenance business at London Luton Airport, where it recently bought a hangar from Monarch Airlines.
In addition, it is working with Bombardier to have Luton designated an approved service center for the Canadian airframer, to match the capability it has at its Manchester base.
The company is also set to open a new sales office in Dubai.
Not much mention of the charter fleet types and numbers. Any updates out there?
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Out of interest, does anyone know what the hiring situation is like for non type-rated pilots? The website says to e-mail enquiries to them (which I have done), but is that an indication that they might be hiring, or does the website always say that???
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Ocean Sky alone ?
Just heard that 3A (TRIPLE ALPHA Luftfahrt GmbH - Business Jets | Jet Charter | Private Jet Charter | Executive Jet) ceased operations.
Any confirmation ?
Taken from Ecacnav, quite a strong small/midsize fleet compared with Ocean Sky long range fleet !
CL30 DBUBI
G150 DCGEP
G150 DCKDM
C650 DCREY
C25B DCURA
C650 DCWII
C525 DIAOA
C525 DICOL
C510 DIEGO
C25A DIGIT
C525 DIHHN
C25A DIHRA
C525 DIKOP
C525 DIRKE
C525 DIRMA
C510 DISIO
Any confirmation ?
Taken from Ecacnav, quite a strong small/midsize fleet compared with Ocean Sky long range fleet !
CL30 DBUBI
G150 DCGEP
G150 DCKDM
C650 DCREY
C25B DCURA
C650 DCWII
C525 DIAOA
C525 DICOL
C510 DIEGO
C25A DIGIT
C525 DIHHN
C25A DIHRA
C525 DIKOP
C525 DIRKE
C525 DIRMA
C510 DISIO
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yeah, they are tits up...
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ml#post6559860
They are not in the LBAs list of approved operators any more.
http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-fl...ml#post6559860
They are not in the LBAs list of approved operators any more.
Jetopa,
I wonder what you mean by your comment?
As far as I know 3A was one of the few serious operators around - compared to an otherwise in general biz jet market full of bull**** companies cutting corners everywhere, pretending safety comes first - but really has no god damn clue.
3A actually appeared to have a decent approach to a safe operation - but I suppose that is not in fashion these days - only wish the customers knew this!
Fly safely
I wonder what you mean by your comment?
As far as I know 3A was one of the few serious operators around - compared to an otherwise in general biz jet market full of bull**** companies cutting corners everywhere, pretending safety comes first - but really has no god damn clue.
3A actually appeared to have a decent approach to a safe operation - but I suppose that is not in fashion these days - only wish the customers knew this!
Fly safely
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.....tha's an awful lot of C525's straight onto the market.....anyone know where any are ending up ??
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As far as I know 3A was one of the few serious operators around - compared to an otherwise in general biz jet market full of bull**** companies cutting corners everywhere, pretending safety comes first - but really has no god damn clue.
3A actually appeared to have a decent approach to a safe operation - but I suppose that is not in fashion these days - only wish the customers knew this!
3A actually appeared to have a decent approach to a safe operation - but I suppose that is not in fashion these days - only wish the customers knew this!
You did not fly for them, did you?
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I wonder what you mean by your comment?
As far as I know 3A was one of the few serious operators around - compared to an otherwise in general biz jet market full of bull**** companies cutting corners everywhere, pretending safety comes first - but really has no god damn clue.
3A actually appeared to have a decent approach to a safe operation - but I suppose that is not in fashion these days - only wish the customers knew this!
As far as I know 3A was one of the few serious operators around - compared to an otherwise in general biz jet market full of bull**** companies cutting corners everywhere, pretending safety comes first - but really has no god damn clue.
3A actually appeared to have a decent approach to a safe operation - but I suppose that is not in fashion these days - only wish the customers knew this!
just try and have a chat with other operators whose customers they 'approached' - they won't be missed.
I understand that handing out business cards at FBO's does not win any points. I was commenting on the operations. Brief experience within this part of the industry has left me generally unimpressed and with the perception that most operators are scruples and does not stand up to the job expected. There are many ways to operate an aircraft and being the cheapest one around is not the way to go.
Way to many aircraft owners have got no clue (unfortunately) what is going on when they trust their lives to an operator. I wish they did.
I only had very brief experiences with 3A - but the ones I had, they were solid and professional - operationally. Now I for one still appreciate to see this kind of operation around. Guess its not trendy these days.
Stay happy and safe
Way to many aircraft owners have got no clue (unfortunately) what is going on when they trust their lives to an operator. I wish they did.
I only had very brief experiences with 3A - but the ones I had, they were solid and professional - operationally. Now I for one still appreciate to see this kind of operation around. Guess its not trendy these days.
Stay happy and safe
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Klimax:
Yes, thanks Klimax...Now that the 3A operation has gone the skies will probably be a little more safer. 
The LBA's revocation was for a good reason and not just because of impending liquidation and cash flow issues - so if you ever fancy spending a little time checking with the LBA the number of MOR/busts/fines/illegal approaches they received and made for a particular portion of their fleet and specifically a certain fleet manager you will self-certify my comment above...
Yes, its a pity that a small number spoil it for the rest but then there you go. However, good luck to the safe, conscientious guys who flew with 3A as i hope they all find good jobs.
...3A actually appeared to have a decent approach to a safe operation...
...cutting corners everywhere, pretending safety comes first...
Stay happy and safe
The LBA's revocation was for a good reason and not just because of impending liquidation and cash flow issues - so if you ever fancy spending a little time checking with the LBA the number of MOR/busts/fines/illegal approaches they received and made for a particular portion of their fleet and specifically a certain fleet manager you will self-certify my comment above...
Yes, its a pity that a small number spoil it for the rest but then there you go. However, good luck to the safe, conscientious guys who flew with 3A as i hope they all find good jobs.
