Citation Mustang Wheels-Up Closes Cambridge
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Citation Mustang Wheels-Up Closes Cambridge
Mustang doing base-check apparently landed wheels up at Cambridge at approx 4pm today, closing airport and causing cancellation of training flights from nearby airports.
Anybody got any further details: No injuries apparently except perhaps pride.
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Anybody got any further details: No injuries apparently except perhaps pride.
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No injuries apparently except perhaps pride
That being so I'd respectfully suggest that there is a great deal more than mere pride at stake, a very great deal more...
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The implication being that it wasn't intentional?
That being so I'd respectfully suggest that there is a great deal more than mere pride at stake, a very great deal more...
That being so I'd respectfully suggest that there is a great deal more than mere pride at stake, a very great deal more...
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closing airport
(I always brief my passengers when I take them for joy rides that we might not get back into Cambridge if someone prangs an aircraft and closes the airport, but I didn't really ever expect it to happen, with a choice of several runways available.)
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Gertude,
its standard procedure to close the airport at a licensed airfield until such time that:
1. The airport fire service and other departments required have dealt with the incident and are fully available to other users, i.e foam tenders are fully replenished and other service vehicles are back to full strength.
2. It can be ascertained, as you so glibly put, that any other surfaces are fully fit for purpose.
3. The aircraft involved in any incident does not pose a threat as an obstruction to anyone else.
Not exactly the most inspiring statement I've ever seen.
I am afraid that says more about you than I ever could, what did you excpect to happen? The tooth fairy to make all the nasty things to go away?
If you don't make contingencies for the unexpected then you shouldn't be flying.
its standard procedure to close the airport at a licensed airfield until such time that:
1. The airport fire service and other departments required have dealt with the incident and are fully available to other users, i.e foam tenders are fully replenished and other service vehicles are back to full strength.
2. It can be ascertained, as you so glibly put, that any other surfaces are fully fit for purpose.
3. The aircraft involved in any incident does not pose a threat as an obstruction to anyone else.
I always brief my passengers when I take them for joy rides that we might not get back into Cambridge if someone prangs an aircraft and closes the airport, but I didn't really ever expect it to happen, with a choice of several runways available.)
I am afraid that says more about you than I ever could, what did you excpect to happen? The tooth fairy to make all the nasty things to go away?
If you don't make contingencies for the unexpected then you shouldn't be flying.
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its standard procedure to close the airport at a licensed airfield until such time that...
If you don't make contingencies for the unexpected then you shouldn't be flying.
There are lots of nasty things that I don't expect to happen, but I plan for them all the same, as trained, as any pilot does.
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Really? 05/23 grass also closed? If so why? - was the wreckage spread all over the airfield? And where did all the students who were in the air land?
Dearest Gertrude:
While I was waiting at the hold at EGTC for my airways clearance for an IFR flight to EGSC I was told by ATC that Cambridge was closed and I wasn't going anywhere.
Simples.
When I drove past Marshalls some 2 hours later there was no immediate sign of a dead Mustang.
Tooth fairy at work I guess.
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Just wonder what your heart beat goes up to when you realize.................
Just as I said that lo and behold there were the numbers poking out of the goom.
Grabbed landing flaps keeping my eyes glued on the runway, started to flair just as I glanced down. Shock Horror NO GREENS.
Full power pulled the nose up as the ugly truth dawned and I waited for the props to strike, climbed away immense relief. Props must have been a foot above the runway at one point.
Having said going around in this single pilot aircraft and my eyes glued to the gloom outside the man in the right seat had retracted the undercarriage trying to be Oh so helpful and forgot to tell me
When I think how close that was to a gear up it makes me shudder.
It all very well with bells and whistles which pilots ignore or dont take in but you would have thought with technology a voice command "Gear Gear Gear" would be far more appropriate in all retractables not the few!!!
It can happen to you no matter how careful you think you are in the right circumstances or should I say wrong circumstances the dreaded gear up can jump up and bite.
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It always suprises me how pushy aircraft can be after their has been an incident at an airfield. Controller workload is almost trebled at times of incident even when it appears there is no immediate talking on the RT. Therfore after an incident ATC have to wait for replenishment of crash CAT and of course there is the issue of controller breaks before they are fit to undertake their job again not to mention internal investigation to into what happened.
Yes Cambridge has grass runways available, but if there is no crash CAT they can not be used. Therefore the number of runways at the airfield is not relevant.
Controllers dont like to refuse traffic, after all they are doing the job to provide a service. Most I know prefer to be busy rather than not. However, it would be nice for aircraft to work with Air Traffic control, and not get upset or pushy when they are told something is not available. Dont forget, Controllers have to look at the whole picture, where as some pilots seem to be only aware of their immediate environment.
Yes Cambridge has grass runways available, but if there is no crash CAT they can not be used. Therefore the number of runways at the airfield is not relevant.
Controllers dont like to refuse traffic, after all they are doing the job to provide a service. Most I know prefer to be busy rather than not. However, it would be nice for aircraft to work with Air Traffic control, and not get upset or pushy when they are told something is not available. Dont forget, Controllers have to look at the whole picture, where as some pilots seem to be only aware of their immediate environment.
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Second hand information, but...I believe it was the first aircraft being delivered to a fledgling air taxi operator, based at Cambridge and doing a couple of circuits with the new owners and delivery pilot onboard.
ATC called gear at last moment and aircraft went around, but still contacted runway with flaps. Proceded to make a normal landing and currently quarantined awaiting further investigation
A very very near miss.
ATC called gear at last moment and aircraft went around, but still contacted runway with flaps. Proceded to make a normal landing and currently quarantined awaiting further investigation
A very very near miss.
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G-FLBK is a Blink aircraft... the reg itself should give that away.
Ambeo are the only operators that are suppose to fly them from Cambridge. the only other two companies that fly mustangs in the UK, are in other airports. unless that has changed its got to be ambeo.
not a good start if its their first delivery.
Ambeo are the only operators that are suppose to fly them from Cambridge. the only other two companies that fly mustangs in the UK, are in other airports. unless that has changed its got to be ambeo.
not a good start if its their first delivery.
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Had a look in CFMU on Friday. PH-TXI was the only mustang operating through EGSC, went in but didn't come back out. No aircraft registered to Ambeo yet, so would recon that's your suspect.
I Wasn't there though and will bow to superior knowledge.
I Wasn't there though and will bow to superior knowledge.