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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 18:40
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All those who have been f***d over by Unique Air/MD say "I"

"I"


Perhaps we should all meet share horror stories!
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 21:55
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Phil

Actually the PA34 flies quite nicely. It's a great workhorse for the small jobs, and the pilots like it, myself included. I reckon your figures are right from the point of view of the operator too.
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Dear Eilene Dover

On behalf of the confirmed pilots that have furnished me with thier experiences reference this company and MD.


I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, ...15 thus far !! any more? any legal operators need pilots?

Looks like an untapped resourse hear. Will be happy to act as go between for these poor guys. Think they could use a little help.
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 04:07
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15, are you serious. Has he really employed 15 pilots?
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 04:39
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People

Well on the e-mail i got with the contract offer there are 12 other names on the circulation, that was in March this does not include anyone else who may have worked for him from which i gather at least 2 more before i did.

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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 04:45
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So, the Industry norm is 1.5 crews per airframe, why has he employed air crew for 10 aircraft? Even if the grand plans do turn up in the form of a couple of Kingairs (it is Kingairs this week isn't it?), why would anyone set up with an unsustainable overhead before the ability to deliver any product?

Surely the whole rationale behind the ilegal flights is to get some clients and revenue to fund the "going legit" process.

I'm obviously far too stupid to understand why this is smart.

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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 08:07
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Phil,

I honestly think that he managed to convince himself about a number of things:
1. That he was a suitable postholder for an AOC.
2. That an AOC was a foregone conclusion and would be approved (and that he'd get the money for the application fees from somewhere).
3. That the investors would back him up to the tune of millions of dollars (to be fair he had the crew convinced of this too). To this end the investor produced a document relating to monies held in a Dutch bank in the name of the (then) holding company. It DID seem plausible at the time.
4. That pending the AOC he would take delivery of several aircraft from the Baron through C340 to a CJ2. These would require crewing, and he thought he could just operate regardless of AOC approval, and get away with it.
5. That pilots would do as he said and hang off his every word regardless of safety or the law.

I suspect he is still convinced of a number of these facts, and that the reality will never touch him.

My own opinion is that the investor has realised that he is not suitable as postholder, or business manager, that a lot of the claims were fabricated, and is unlikely now to back him even if (and it seems a big 'if') the investor had the money he claimed.

In the meantime I have heard that he is now propagating the rumour that he is a benevolent being who only did all this to create jobs for low hours pilots, and that we have all stabbed him in the back.

Question is, does anybody believe him anymore?
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 08:52
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Yes, at least 15 so far!

It's hard to believe, even if there was "sour grapes" by a percentage, so many pilots that all have had similer stories to tell ? Does this guy live in the real world?

I am curious to this mans credentials. I assume he has some kind of aviation background? Has he worked previousley for any other operaters? If so, who? and in what capacity?
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 10:06
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Flying credentials

I think there was a link back on another thread once that showed him as a 777 pilot? if i remember correctly, which was thrown about in banter on here, don't think thats true either, although he did have a newspaper article to say that in some Welsh start up business post

Compulsive liar comes to mind, still on for meet up guys maybe we can start our own employment roadshow too, just don't put ex unique on your CV
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 10:47
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Chai Ja, do share the gossip as I've heard this rumour before. He certainly doesn't know one end of an aircraft from another!

As for beers, where's a convenient place to meet up? I'm in Nottingham if that's central enough for people?
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 11:54
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This is interesting.

http://www.airscript.co.uk/news.html

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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 11:55
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Flying credentials

I think there was a link back on another thread once that showed him as a 777 pilot? if i remember correctly, which was thrown about in banter on here, don't think thats true either, although he did have a newspaper article to say that in some Welsh start up business post



Extract from Business @ Bridgend magazine July 2006 issue:


"The company, Unique Air was started with the help of the
Bridgend branch of Business in Focus, an organisation dedicated
to helping businesses in Wales grow, by former Air
Continental Boeing 777 pilot Mark Davies. Mark lived in
Florida and worked for a leading American airline for seven
years before deciding it was time to return home to Bridgend.
Unique Air which officially started in November 05, operates a
4 seater club class Piper Seneca, flown by Mark Davies with a
range of 1000 miles non-stop.
They can also upon request provide a range of aircraft including
Lear jets. The company was originally formed for business
travellers and can count several members of the horse racing
fraternity, Welsh celebrities and successful business people
amongst its growing list of regular customers.
Unique Air has also attracted a number of customers that use
their service to visit family, holiday destinations or long weekend
breaks. With the cessation of Air Wales passenger service,
this is a market that Unique Air is planning to cater for by
introducing regular charter services with the cost of the flight
divided equally between the passengers.
Mark Davies said, "I felt that there was a unique opportunity in
Wales for a personal short haul air service. If you take for
example travelling to North Wales, there are no scheduled
internal flights going from South Wales to North Wales, and it
can take five hours by car. I can get you there in just 30 minutes.
With our flexible service we can pick you up in an airfield
of your choice and take you to an airfield as close to your destination
as possible".
Unique Air regularly flies to Shannon, Wexford, Newcastle,
Manchester, Blackpool and Jersey. The company can arrange a
flight to virtually any short haul destination. Business partner
and Mark’s fiancée Claire Bartlett is in charge of the sales and
marketing of the company. She expects that they will exceed
their target annual turn over of £100, 000 in their first full year
of operating.
For further information please either access www.unique-air.co.uk or call 01656 788 132."
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 12:03
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Well, being a pilot does not mean you know how to run an airline, often better to be a bit more removed. Thats what the Chief pilot is for!! I was thinking more of credentials for running the operation as Director?


777 pilot? Really? bravo! Who for? Any training captains out there able to verify this claim ?

More importantley , is there any positions out there for the unlucky few that got caught up in this nightmare? Would another firm reject applications from these guys (and girls?) due to association with Unique Air ?

Phil, that really is interesting!!!!
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 12:28
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I see yet another flavour of Unique Air, this time Unique Air International Ltd was incorporated on 9th July. Same address as UNIQUE AIR G-WWIZ (UK) LTD, too much of a concidence to be of no association.

My guess is that this will be the holding company for the new "largest Cessna Citation operator in Europe "

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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 12:51
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Or I wonder if a company ever dissolved and re-named itself in order to break links with past debt? Unique Air International is, as you rightly say, the same entity. We were emailed to say that despite the name change our terms and conditions remained the same ie unpaid and bullied!
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From what I can see it is not a name change but a new legal entity, the original company still exists, but has had a name change to Unique Eminem or something like that.

Gangsta wicked innit etc etc etc dontchano
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 13:02
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meet up

In shropshire, Notts not far for me!!
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 13:25
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Phil .....LMAO!!!!!!!
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 13:28
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Phil can we have that in Welsh too?
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Old 23rd Jul 2007, 13:45
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Hi mike

From the internet - Gangsta 'n anfad innit etc etc etc dontchano.

Bit pants really!

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