Buy a turboprop - but which one?
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"S/E turbine is a no no on AOC (VFR day only) not too helpful in Northern Europe!"
I thought this was the case, so how come I saw a single engined turboprop with a fully uniformed crew of 2 collecting several passengers from my local airport yesterday to fly to another UK destination through WX that did not have a hope of being VFR? Is this the loophole that fractional ownership (rather than charter on an AOC) allows?
Don't get me wrong, I am in favour of SE (turbine) commercial IFR but am just wondering how the rules are being legally circumvented.
SB
I thought this was the case, so how come I saw a single engined turboprop with a fully uniformed crew of 2 collecting several passengers from my local airport yesterday to fly to another UK destination through WX that did not have a hope of being VFR? Is this the loophole that fractional ownership (rather than charter on an AOC) allows?
Don't get me wrong, I am in favour of SE (turbine) commercial IFR but am just wondering how the rules are being legally circumvented.
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Scooter.................. funny that cause I saw exactly the same yesterday from my airport. A twin crew, in uniform, in a single engine turbine with the aircraft owner and his friends onboard!.....and going flying too.
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Scooter..........exactly how could you tell the passengers were not friends of the owner.
If you feel there was something illegal with the operation of the flight you have a moral obligation to report it to the relevant authorities. I presume you have already done this.
If you feel there was something illegal with the operation of the flight you have a moral obligation to report it to the relevant authorities. I presume you have already done this.
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Not for me to pry Dimbleby - I regard those who tell tales on others to the CAA when there is no safety issue at stake as pretty low on the evolutionary scale, anyway you may be right and I may just have been observing the owners using their aircraft in a legal way.
IMHO there is a difference between (possibly) illegal and downright dangerous and this was only the former, so no moral obligation for me. Let he who has never sinned etc...This is why I have not disclosed any details and will not be doing so.
My post was more of a question as to whether any legal loopholes exist to enable commercial ops with a single engined turbine - i:e large fractional ownership groups.
and no it was not the Spice Girls (close though!)
SB
IMHO there is a difference between (possibly) illegal and downright dangerous and this was only the former, so no moral obligation for me. Let he who has never sinned etc...This is why I have not disclosed any details and will not be doing so.
My post was more of a question as to whether any legal loopholes exist to enable commercial ops with a single engined turbine - i:e large fractional ownership groups.
and no it was not the Spice Girls (close though!)
SB
