buzzc152

Might be a strange question but do you have to supply your own headset with NJE ?

redsnail

Buzz,

No. They are issued by the company.

I can't speak for the other fleets, the Hawker fleet is issued with the Telex 850. (I prefer my Sennheiser's though)

buzzc152

OK, thanks Redsnail. I just received all the bumf from the training dept re INDOC in 2 weeks..... there was a weird sentence on headsets.
Are you issued with your own personal headset then or they come with aircraft ?
Buzz

edit to add : do both crew get a Blackberry or just Capt ?

keepin it in trim

afaik,and I can only speak for jet fleet, everyone gets their own noise cancelling headset and bb.

The requirement for home standby is, leave house within 45 mins of call, 1 hr to airport, 1 hr to check in for airline. So you basically have 1 hr 45 mins from call to leave home and be at your gateway to check in, 1 hr before your airline. This does not seem unreasonable to most people.

All I can say, as a UK based pilot, is that the T & C and quite a bit of other stuff, have improved a lot over the last year. All UK based pilots have paid UK tax for several years, and the new contract last year resulted in a genuine increase in take home pay. And just to stress for some people who still don't believe it, NO, the tax authority in UK do not allow me to make deductions for, wife, children, mortgage, days out of country, etc.

The job can be very demanding, after 6 days I can be very tired, BUT I work with a great bunch of colleagues, I like the aircraft, the flying is varied (could be a positive or negative, you choose), and I have a stable 6 on/5 off roster.

My work/life balance is reasonable, the office support can be either fantastic or infuriating, or a range of places in between. I have decided to stick with it for the long haul, you may think that is crazy, I have days when I wonder if I have done the right thing. But on balance, and looking at the different shades of grass around me, I think this is not a bad place to be.

I know several people have had very bad experiences, I understand their views and why they hold them, in their position I would feel the same way. All I can say is, I have been treated very fairly.

You pays your money......

Have a good day

blablablafly

Hi Keepin Trim. Agree with that 100%

thedeadseawasonlysick

KIIT,
You're absolutely right, the new contract did provide a genuine increase in take home pay in the UK. The only trouble was, it didn't give a real increase in take home pay. Great for those who had only been in the company a short while, but not so good for anyone with a few years in. Despite the Governments figures for COL, a few months ago all the newspapers were running stories on the real COL rises. It's not so much what the Government takes into account when arriving at the annual figure, as what they leave out. Netjets had not had a pay rise for about five years. Compound up COL for that period and in real terms your money buys you less, even after the "pay rise" and the "best terms in the business".

AFTA

Are you supposed to be on standby when home?? My understanding is 6 days on tour followed by 5 days at home. So what ìs the deal about max 1 hour drive from gateway? Anyway that seems to be a requirement and might be a showstopper for me.

PPRuNeUser0215

No you are not on standby when at home... 6 days On, 5 days OFF. But if your roster or your duty is to be on standby from home then the times mentioned above will apply.
Standby are not the common so perhaps you could get yourself a girlfriend who lives nearby your gateway in case you have some standby to do ?
On the other hand since nothing in terms of duty is predictable if you have a last minute change which becomes a SBY then you might have a problem.

An hour from a base/gateway for many companies is quite common too. NJE scheduling has to work for you before you join otherwise you will be disappointed.

AFTA

Amex thank you for your answer, But to rephrase the question, the company would have no problem with the pilot leaving the gateway on the offdays? Unless you have agreed to work on specific offdays off course.

keepin it in trim

AFTA, just to be clear your 5 days off are OFF, the company does not care what you do or WHERE you are for those 5 days, as long as you are at your gateway at the briefed time on DAY 1 of your 6 DAY TOUR, rested and ready to work. I went to New York for a long weekend with the good looking half of the family during one 5 day off period (I don't do this all the time but it was her birthday!)

As has been said above, home standby is not that common, but if it appears as part of your 6 days, you need to be able to leave the house and make it to your gateway in 1 hr 45 mins from the call (45mins to leave, 1 hr travelling) to check in for your airline, for which 1hr before departure time is allowed.

I know quite a lot of people who live outside the 1 hr circle, they just organise their lives to make it work for the 2.5 to 3, 6 day tours, you get each month. Hope this makes it clear for all, have a good day

AFTA

Thanks, now im just hoping for a phone call.

Riker

What aircraft types have recent newhires been getting? Any breakout of data would be appreciated.

CL300

these data are confidential, and irrelevant by company definitions and policies.

You will have what you get. And it might change from indoc start to finish; you will know your fleet when you will have completed your line check, before that , anything can happen. 5it can happen after, but it is very seldom)

egon

Anybody had the phone interview recently? I applied 3 weeks ago, 2000tt med jet/tp/airtaxi experience, heard nothing. How long have people generally had to wait for the call?

C-130

Hellow, I waited approx five weeks !

Cpt_Schmerzfrei

And I am still waiting... 10 weeks now..

Riker

Edited by Duck Rogers to say:

Mr Riker will be taking a short holiday from these forums to reflect upon his behaviour.

CL300

Statistics are not to be shared, however we get FO in all fleets..
How about that ?
My answer is a straight forward, true, formal statement.
you can expect anything, you will have confirmation when you will be released on line, until then, enjoy the ride !

edited for : any datas not being released by a company media (internet, pblications etc..) are confidential.

Pm does not void this binding.

redsnail

Riker, I think you've been rather rude to CL300. I know him and rude, simple and stupid he is not. In fact, I'd argue the opposite.

It seems to me and to pretty much any one else who's been contributing to this thread from NJE that you're trying to second guess the recruiting and aircraft types. It won't happen. You can't predict it. We can't, we're not the ones on the assembly line signing them over nor are we in the Training Department booking up the sims. We're also not in the Sales office so we have no idea what's been sold and how many.

So, you can see that there are many variables which can be summed up in a few words. "What the requirements for NJE on that particular Indoc is what you'll get" Also, as CL300 alluded to, it can change mid Indoc too. It happened on my Indoc nearly 3 years ago and I doubt it was an isolated case.

Picture this, you're on Indoc and you think you're going to be an FO on the Falcon 2000 EASy.. Yes.. but then a week later, someone from Training walks in and plucks that binder from your desk and plonks down in front of you, the binders for the Hawker 400. How will you feel? You have to want the job, not a specific aircraft type.

Editted so as to not alarm people about the number of indocs

FourGreenNoRed

Riker! You appear to be a Senior-PPRUNE contributor, which in fact is a good thing, but most of your posts are Guantanamo-Style Monotype Questions and Insults (Calling Holyman SMEAGEL a Dork and CL 300 a Prick ).
Most of the colleques were patient enough to answer all questions regardless weather they were raised and answered here ages ago. And nothing did change and will change in the near future.

You might as well ask "How are the colleques?" and you will get the unisono answer: "They are great"

And this again answers your question weather to join NJE or not. NO you shouldnt because you dont qualify for the most important attribute: Being friendly and a guy you want to be with for six days.

Move on!