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spekesoftly 8th June 2005 18:22

Have a look at THIS thread.

On about page 3, Impiger relates a tale headed 'Jag Splash'.

sailor 8th June 2005 19:05

Harrier
 
The Pilot was Taylor Scott (RIP). Previous mentions of seat movement I believe are assumed to be correct cause of pilot's uncommanded departure. Nice guy who I knew well in 892 Sqn who was part of public display aerobatic team on first Frontline tour. No slouch, who did not deserve that sort of early demise.

BossEyed 8th June 2005 21:23

Rocket2 Unless there were two very similar ones, I think that the incident you mention was this one at Tintagel in 1979.

teeteringhead 9th June 2005 08:06

And wasn't there another Hunter abandonment in the Irish sea where the jet nearly flew itself to Dublin??

Rocket2 9th June 2005 09:23

Boss - yes your quite right - apologise for increasing senility:uhoh: R2

jumpseater 11th June 2005 10:30

I believe the Phantom was 19sqdn's XV422 subsequently named 'Jaguar Killer'....

RileyDove 11th June 2005 12:05

The Jaguar was a GR.1 XX963 which was shot down on the 25th of May 1982 by a Phantom FG.1 of 92 Squadron. There was a breakdown of procedure which allowed the Sidewinder launch.

Regards the Harrier GR.5 incident - there was never a conclusion reached as to the exact reason for the accident. There were modifications carried out to the seat prior to service introduction.

27mm 13th June 2005 14:32

Sorry to be boring, but corrections are in order: XV422 was a 92Sqn FGR2; as well as having a Jag silhouette on her ramp, she also had a Jindi (claimed on MPC).

jumpseater 13th June 2005 20:39

XV422
I got my info from a web site selling decals for model aircraft. A set has been issued that indicates XV422 being a 19sqdn a/c in Barley Grey with the words Jag Killer. I have tried to find pics of it in this condition but all the Barley Grey shots dont appear to have any indication of its 'history'. I think it was on 19 for some time hence the confusion re the sqdn on the decal's site. I would have thought that the a/c would have been in grey/greem camo at the time. So any pics of it 27?
rgds js

27mm 14th June 2005 13:15

Hi Jumpseater,

Seem to recall that 19 & 92 did indeed rotate aircraft on the odd occasion as they came out of deep servicing; however, at the time of the unfortunate shoot-down, XV422 was in Barley Grey. The wing F4s started off in grey/green, but during the early 80s more of the Barley Grey jobs started to appear. Sorry, unable to help with pics at the moment, but will search around for some.

27mm 14th June 2005 18:50

XV422
 
Jumpseater,

I owe you an apology - XV422 was indeed grey/green at the time of the shootdown incident

ORAC 15th June 2005 05:09

F4 nav was Alistair Inverarity, can't remember the pilot's name. Went to see the Jag mates with a barrel of beer to apologise, Stn Cdr threw them off the station. No sense of humour some people......

LowNSlow 15th June 2005 06:32

I take it from ORAC's comment that the Jag driver survived the incident?

teeteringhead 15th June 2005 13:35


I take it that the Jag driver survived the incident?
... certainly did via a Martin-Baker letdown.

27mm 15th June 2005 17:01

Jag shootdown
 
F4 driver was Roy Lawrence, jag mate believed to be Steve Griggs. It was strangely difficult to get any fighter affil with the Bruggen wing for yonks afterwards.....

diginagain 16th June 2005 01:38

Scout AH1 v F4
 
Nearly a case of revenge-by-proxy. Air to ground shoot from a Scout in FI, properly NOTAMed, range clear, comms with local radar unit etc. Aircrewman letting rip with a GPMG, firing in bursts, good drills - just fired off a burst when a large, grey fast thing passed between muzzle and target.

Gainesy 16th June 2005 10:11

Yes it was Steve Griggs; he banged out of another Jag later that year.

ShyTorque 16th June 2005 15:50

As one well intentioned layman once asked: "Of course this was the beginning of that well known RAF phrase - I'll be b8888ed if I'll fly Jags - wasn't it?" :confused:

Er, no, not exactly...... :E

spekesoftly 16th June 2005 17:17


Yes it was Steve Griggs; he banged out of another Jag later that year.
Strewth!! - so who shot him down on that occassion? ;)

LowObservable 20th July 2005 11:38

PT6ER
The USAF Museum aircraft is an F-106A Delta Dart. It had a problem somewhere out there (North Dakota IIRC) and the pilot ejected safely. Without the pilot and seat it stabilized nose-high and pancaked gently into a snow-covered field.
When the recovery crew arrived the engine was still running. As the heat from the engine melted the snow, the jet would lurch forward across the field until it hit fresh snow, which would stop it. When that snow melted... Finally, a brave (foolhardy?) guy jumped on the wing, straddled the fuselage and crawled forward to the cockpit to shut off the J75. The aircraft was repaired.


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