Folland Gnat/HAL Ajeet
I will shortly be adding the Gnat/Ajeet to my site so if anybody out there has any info or pictures on surviving examples worldwide that would be welcome. Also, any pictures of them in service (the bigger the better) would be great.
I'm having a bit of trouble tying down which Indian Gnats are Ajeet IIs - is there a listing of which is which? I've scoured Warbirds of India but to little avail. I've compiled a list of survivors from several sources including W&R 18, European W&R 2, Landings, CAA register, Warbirds of India and contributions from Alan Allen and Alan Barley, which is as follows. Any corrections or additions would be very welcome! Finally, anyone who flew this little gem, if you fancy writing anything on what it was like, I'd be delighted to have your memories recorded for posterity on my site. BEagle? :) COMPLETE AIRCRAFT F.1 11601 Muzej Yugoslovenskog Vazduhplovsta, Belgrade Airport, Belgrade, Yugoslavia 'DJ1992' AFS Kalaikunda (displayed in front of tower), West Bengal, India E1049? Defence Services Staff College, Wellington, Tamil Nadu, India E1051 AFS Ambala (displayed at war memorial), India E1076 March Field Air Museum, California, USA E1083 Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (displayed in memorial park), Bangalore, India E1205 Indian Air Force HQ, Vayu Bhavan, Delhi, India E1214 Yanks Air Museum, Chino, California, USA E1222 Mid America Air Museum, Liberal, Kansas, USA E1956 AFS Kalaikunda (displayed by 2 Sqn hangar), West Bengal, India E1973 St. Mary's School, Pune, Maharashtra, India E2016 Indian Air Force Museum, Palam, India E232 AFS Kalaikunda (displayed in front of tower), West Bengal, India E246 Indian Air Force HQ, Vayu Bhavan, Delhi, India E247 National Defence Academy, Khadakvasla, Pune, Maharashtra, India E254 Pragathi Maidan, Defence Exhibition, Delhi, India E261 Canteen Stores Depot, Vayu Sena Nagar, Nagpur, India E265 Indian Air Force Museum (flyer), Palam, India E273 Delhi, India E276 David Tallichet/MARC (stored), Long Beach, California, USA E296 David Tallichet/MARC (stored), Long Beach, California, USA E299 David Tallichet/MARC (stored), Long Beach, California, USA E315 Empire State Aerosciences Museum, New York, USA E325 Chembur Gardens, Bombay, India E355 Indian Air Force Academy, Dundigal, India GN-101 (ex G-39-6) Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo, Tikkakoski, Finland GN-103 Halli (displayed in town square), Finland GN-104 Keski-Suomen Ilmailumuseo (gate guard), Tikkakoski, Finland GN-105 Suomen Ilmailumuseo (stored, dismantled), Vantaa, Helsinki, Finland GN-106 Suomen Ilmailumuseo, Vantaa, Helsinki, Finland GN-107 Kymi airfield, Finland GN-110 Rovaniemi airfield (gate guard), Finland IE-1241 Doon Public School, Dehradun, Uttar Pradesh, India IE1059 Indian Air Force Museum, Palam, India IE1061 Western Air Command HQ, Subroto Park, Delhi, India IE1061 Subrota Park, Delhi, India IE1062 Martyr's Memorial, Dharamsala, India IE1071 Indian Air Force HQ (displayed by Officer's Mess), Delhi, India IE1076 AFS Tambaram, Chennai, India IE1078 AFS Tambaram, Chennai, Tamilnadu, India IE1083 Pakistan Air Force Museum, Karachi, Pakistan IE1205 Nagpur Park, Nagpur, India IE1975 Indian Air Force HQ, Delhi, India Unknown Bangladesh (precise location unknown) Unknown Air Force Technical College, Jallahali, Karnataka, India Unknown Air Force Technical College, Jallahali, Karnataka, India Unknown Airforce Bal Bharati School, Delhi, India Unknown Kerala Science and Technology Museum, Trivandrum, India Unknown JNTU College of Engineering, Kakinada, India Unknown AFS Baghdogra (gate guard), Walong, India Unknown Central Air Command HQ (gate guard), Allahabad, India Unknown District Collector's Office (displayed on memorial), Ludhiana, India XK724 RAF Museum Cosford, Shropshire XK740 Southampton Hall of Aviation, Southampton, Hampshire FR.1 GN-112 Finnish Aviation Museum Society (stored), Vesivehmaa, Finland GN-113 (ex XN326) Markku Lehti/Sotilas ja Lentoteknikkan Museo, Kormu, Finland T.1 'G-FRCE' (ex XS104) Kennet Aviation, North Weald, Essex (soon!) N936FC (ex XR980) Frank Chiodo (flyer), East Islip, New York, USA 'PF179' (really XR541) Global Aviation, Humberside Airport XM693 AeroStructures, Hamble, Hampshire XM694 (N694XM) John Mulvey/Astre Air International, Aurora, Colorado, USA XM697 (ex G-NAAT) Hunter Flying Club, Exeter, Dorset XM698 (N698XM) James Thompson, St. Cloud, Florida, USA XM705 (N705XM) James Thompson, St. Cloud, Florida, USA XM708 Privately owned, Lytham St. Annes XM709 Privately owned, USA XP502 Delta Jets, Kemble, Gloucestershire XP503 (N503KC) Randal Fields, Palo Alto, California, USA XP505 Science Museum, Wroughton XP511 (N6145X) Larry Henderson (flyer), Danville, California, USA XP513 (N513X) Dean Cutshall/American Horizons Ltd Inc, Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA XP514 (N7HY) Anton Ostermeier (flyer), Santa Ana, California, USA XP516 QinetiQ (vibration testing), Farnborough, Hampshire XP530 (N4347N, ex N530X) Great Planes Sales Inc. (flyer), Tulsa, Oklahoma, USA XP533 (N533XP) Tom Foley/NTC Group Inc. (flyer), Greenwich, Connecticut, USA XP538 (N19GT) Planes of Fame Air Museum (flyer), Chino, USA XP540 Arbury College, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire XP541 (N8130Q) Robert Davis (flyer), Tipton, Indiana, USA XP542 Royal Military College, Shrivenham, Oxfordshire XR534 Newark Air Museum, Newark, Nottinghamshire XR535 (N8130N) Dean Cutshall/American Horizons Ltd Inc, Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA XR537 (ex G-NATY) Bournemouth Aviation Museum, Hurn, Dorset XR538 (G-RORI) Delta Jets, Kemble, Gloucestershire XR540 Privately owned, USA XR569 Privately owned, USA XR571 Red Arrows (displayed within the station), RAF Scampton, Lincolnshire XR572 (N572XR) Michael Bertz, Jefferson Cty Airport, Broomfield, Colorado, USA XR574 (8631M) 1 SoTT, RAF Cosford, Shropshire XR951 (N81298) McDownell Ent Inc., California City, California, USA XR953 (N953RH) Ntl Aviation & Transportation Mus. of Florida, Florida, USA XR954 Source Classic Jet Flight (stored dismantled), Hurn, Dorset XR955 (N4367L) DAC International Inc. (flyer), Austin, Texas, USA XR977 RAF Museum Cosford, Shropshire XR984 Privately owned (stored), San Diego, California, USA XR987 (N7CV) Real Speed Inc. (flyer), Wilmington, Delaware, USA XR991 (N1CL, ex G-BOXO) Aerocrafters Inc. (flyer), Santa Rosa, California, USA 'XR991' (G-MOUR, really XS102) Yellowjack Group, Kemble, Gloucestershire 'XR993' (G-BVPP, really XP534) Kennet Aviation, North Weald, Essex XR998 (N998XR) John Mulvey/Astre Air International, Aurora, Colorado, USA XS100 Privately owned, Fyfield, Essex XS101 (G-GNAT) Arnold Glass (flyer), North Weald, Essex XS105 (N18GT) Planes of Fame Air Museum (flyer), Chino, USA XS107 (N107XS) Albert Mangino, Danbury, Conneticut, USA XS109 (N61457) David Dulabon, Erie, Pennyslvania, USA XS110 (N117SH, ex N110XS and N7152Z) Larry Shory, Lawrenceville, Georgia, USA 'XS111' (G-TIMM, really XP504) Kennet Aviation, North Weald, Essex Ajeet F.2 E1059 Mayo College, Ajmer, Rajasthan, India E1975 Indian Air Force HQ, Vayu Bhavan, Delhi, India E1979 Faculty of Aeronautical Engineering, MCEME, Hyderabad, India NOSE/COCKPIT/OTHER SECTIONS SIMULATOR N/A Newark Air Museum (procedures trainer), Newark, Nottinghamshire F.1 XK741 Midland Air Museum (fuselage), Baginton, Warwickshire T.1 XM692 Thameside Aviation Museum (nose), East Tilbury XP532 Privately owned (fuselage, spares use), USA XR985 Last noted with Delta Jets, Kemble, Gloucestershire? XR993 (N3XR) John Mulvey/Astre Air International (wreckage), Colorado, USA |
For some Gnat tales, see here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...threadid=72761 Glad to see that XR977 is preserved at Cosford. On 4 March 1975 I was lucky enough to be first to fly solo on my course and did it in XR977. Just a quick whizz round Anglesey (you took off, tucked the left slipper tank on the coastline and shot off around the island as quickly as you could - or dared to!). Then back for 3 quick circuits - and it was a lovely Spring day as well! |
Stab in the dark, but I guess the colour scheme has changed since then!
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/xr977.jpg So am I okay to nick your tales of derring do in Gnats (duly credited of course)? |
Please feel free!
Horrid Sparrows colour scheme on my friendly little jet - the 4FTS one was rather better! Someone once said that a Gnat looked as though it was doing 200+ mph even sitting still on the ground! I don't think that any aeroplane was nicer to fly at low level than the Gnat - although I was once rather concerned to see minus 200 ft on the altimeter over Treaddur Bay when having a back seat trip with a QFI during one of his Staff Continuation Training trips - at nearly 90 deg of bank with Valley QFE set..... |
Many thanks!
Deep troughs between the waves? Have to agree on the colours, this is more like it eh... http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/xr538.jpg |
Treaddur Bay? That almost sounds like me... a depression I am not, mountainous is a better description...
Damien, someone posted a good story about a Gnat prang at Valley on this very forum - IIRC an unoccupied MB (I think?) just missed the Rescure Whirly. BEagle was it you recalled it? I recall seeing the Sparrows at Middle Wallop in the last Gnat season, '79 - the singletons have left a lasting impression of being below me at one point... long time since I've been to Wallop, but below me? Surely not... |
those two T1's listed in Aurora, Colorado are located at Front Range Airport (FTG)
noticed them the other week while doing a recce for a cheap tailwheeler to fly in Denver, as I've just moved here from the UK (there's also a Pembrooke parked next to them!) |
Treadders
No, 'twas I! Gnats were rumoured to be found as 'giveaways' in packets of Shredded Wheat :D but produced quite good 'trade' for those of us involved in S&R. Trea(r?)ddur Bay was the final arrival place for one particular Gnat which had trim problems after take-off sufficiently severe for the crew to eject. We heard the 'bang seats' going and rushed out to look. The Gnat, relieved of the weight of two crew became much more stable - just continuous pitch-ups and gentle stalls. It continued in this manner around Valley airfield getting lower and lower and finally arrived in the sea just off the beach. This was high summer (anyway there were lots of 'grockles' around) and, miraculously, it deposited itself BETWEEN two groups of bathers without damaging anyone. The crew, meanwhile, had floated to earth, courtesy of Folland ejector seats. |
'Twas always said of the Gnat that you didn't strap into it, you put it on.
BEAGLE and I will ALWAYS differ on the correct colour scheme. :cool: Do you have the exact location in the US of A of XR540? She was my mount for 4 years in the Reds. Great site, Damien, and some tears in the eyes. It seems a lot of the Lightnings I flew are on petrol station forecourts in Cornwall - aah well, saves always looking for the tanker, I guess! |
Keep it coming guys...
BOAC, thanks for the comments and sorry, no clue where XR540 is. Exported from the UK in February 1987, and can't find owt about it's movements since or current ownership/whereabouts. Two have crashed in the US, both fatal unfortunately - XP535 (low level aeros) and XR993 (ran out of fuel). |
Sorry BOAC - I meant that particular Reds colour scheme - with the silly lettering along the nose and the prominent CFS badge. The earlier 'full fin flash' schemes were much more attractive! And your Gnat 9-ship looked much, much better than the Hawk ones do. Nothing to do with the undoubted skill of the Hawk teams - it's just that the Hawk doesn't look so sleek and swept as the Gnat! And it has that ugly dog's d*ck smoke pod....
|
Q for you BEagle - what's the significance of the 'F' on the panel in this shot? Been sent it and the sender is wondering if it throws some doubt on the identity of this example - nose section of XS100 displayed in a shop in London - as he doesn't think XS100 was ever coded 'F'. Any ideas?
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/gnatf.jpg |
I'm not sure about the 'F' - but I don't think that it's a tail code.
The panel layout seems unfamiliar. Certainly the OR946 display is correct, but the location of other gauges looks different to what I remember - but that was over 25 years ago. There doesn't seem to be any primary Central Warning Panel over by where one's right knee would be - 5 red captions 'FIRE 1, FIRE 2, HYD, OXY and CPR' plus an engine fire extinguisher and a CWP test button if I recall correctly. The 9 amber captions are in the correct position - perhaps this is a shot of a much earlier panel layout? Also, it seems to have an extra TPI gauge (in the wrong location), no cabin altimeter (that should be lower centre near the 'cabin to static' changeover cock - which, oddly enough is still on this example. Without the cabin altimeter selected to 'static', if this particular jet ever had an AC/DC failure, it would have had no altimeter at all....), a bogus turn and slip indicator (ours didn't have one, but they did have a standby artifical horizon plus the yaw dolls' eyes at the top of the panel), the hydraulic power gauge has been moved from its usual location (you can see its vacant C-shaped mounting on the left edge of the coaming) and re-located to where the cabin altimeter should normally be - plus the engine and fuel gauges don't seem to be where I remember them to have been..... A very odd panel indeed! I'm not an expert on the Gnat - just an ex-student - but I do recall 'our' panels as having been very different. I suspect that the 'F' refers to some mod. state incorporated in this jet? |
Ah, a mystery. I do love whodunnits!
Thanks BEagle! |
All times are GMT. The time now is 04:42. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.