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Hairyplane 29th Mar 2004 08:51

Nerd responding.....
 
I havent looked up the definition of a 'nerd' but it does conjure up an image that I am confident very few subscribers to this thread will fit...

Anyway - welcome to Miles ownership.

You are clearly passionate enough about your aircraft project to spend many, many thousands of pounds more to get it flying that it will eventualy be worth. That indeed is the mark of a true enthusiast and for that I salute you. Does that enthusiasm and, to others a seemingly foolish financial commitment, make you a nerd too or simply an 'enthusiast'?

If anybody has anything on the aircraft it will most likely be Peter Amos of The Miles Collection. I guess you have already contacted him. If you are not a member then I recommend that you join immediately.

Have you posted on the FlyPast forum?

When I bought my Falcon it came with very little history and nothing relative to its early days. All it took was some dedication and the help of some fellow 'enthusiasts'. As you can see from my thread, now approaching 10,000 hits, there is a lot of interest out there.

I wish you luck with your project. I considered it myself but bought the Maggie instead.

Try to get to G-VFWE, I would very much like to meet you and introduce you to other MMMmmmiles owners, pilots and enthusiasts.

All the best

HP

atb1943 29th Mar 2004 21:51

Hallo,

I've found a couple more Gemini photos that I'd like to share with you:

EI-BHJ at Shoreham yonks ago, possibly 1979

http://www.flightsimulator.de/aviati...ilesEI-BHJ.jpg

'KHW at Norwich

http://www.flightsimulator.de/aviati...les G-AKHW.jpg

and KHP probably at Biggin Hill

http://www.flightsimulator.de/aviati...les G-AKHP.jpg

cheers

atb1943

The crest on 'KHW is of the City of Plymouth.

And here's Miles Student G-APLK taken at Blackbushe one typically wet Farnborough week, I believe Sept 1957...

http://www.flightsimulator.de/aviati...les G-APLK.jpg

I notice dorsal strakes not seen before, and an eagle-like logo on the tail rather similar to Bamberg's Eagle...?

cheers

atb1943

Airbedane 2nd Apr 2004 20:18

Thanks for the flight in the Maggie today, Hairyplane - magic stuff!

\Ma*gis"ter\, n. Master; sir; -- a title of the Middle Ages, given to a person in authority, or to one having a license from a university to teach philosophy and the liberal arts.

Man-on-the-fence 3rd Apr 2004 05:51

So the Maggie is airborne again after its winter lay off. Excellent stuff.

Hairyplane 5th Apr 2004 09:25

MMMmmmaggie
 
What Airbedane didn't say was that he did a beeeeeaaauuutiful slow roll in the thing, followed by a polished practice display.

MMMmmm!!!

Well...what else could we expect from the great man himself.

The last time the aircraft was aerobatted was by Brendan O'Brien down at Headcorn last Summer - only on that occasion I was sat in the front cockpit squealing like a kid on a roller coaster. Magic stuff.

Nicky and I flew it afterwards - all in all one of those 'great to be alive' days ( a joint agreement once we thawed out....!).

I am in discussions at the moment about the scheme change. It seems that whatever you do with the sandpaper, any previous markings will 'grin' through and will be visible always, albeit at acute angles.

With a metal aircraft all you need do is take it back to the shiny stuff. However, the Maggie is made of fabric covered plywood.

I wonder if there is a filler primer that would do the trick? It has to be an immaculate job otherwise it stays as V1075, at least for the foreseeable future.

Now looking forward to getting the Falcon out after the winter layoff - CofA due soon.

HP

Man-on-the-fence 5th Apr 2004 10:05


What Airbedane didn't say was that he did a beeeeeaaauuutiful slow roll in the thing, followed by a polished practice display.
How big was the grin on his face afterwards? :E

treadigraph 5th Apr 2004 12:17

I'll bet big enough to provide additional lift!

dde0apb 8th Apr 2004 19:37

G-VFWE
 
Any idea which days you wonderful Miles owners are likely to be going to Abingdon? The last few years I have managed to be there on the day when most of you were not.....

best to all of you

Adrian

P.S. Beginnings of more Miles web pages at www.beney.org.uk/personal/miles/wpb.php

Hairyplane 9th Apr 2004 21:50

Abingdon
 
As last year, the Maggie and Falcon should be there throughout although I know that a number of owners only come for a day.

B there or B square!

HP

Airbedane 18th Apr 2004 06:38

I pondered this one for a few seconds, then thought - 'He won't tell you himself, so what the heck!'..................

We've been teaching Haiyplane how to be a fighter pilot this week, and he's been doing remarkably well - 'Spring Chicken' to $hitehawk' in three trips! The grin on his face was a sight to be seen, particularly after the last formation display. Take a look at:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=126999

In the seventh picture from the top, which shows a tailchase, Hairy is in his Maggie on the left of the picture, nicely tucked in behind the Tiger.

Well done old friend and thanks for the use of your machines at Old Warden this week, you are a very generous man.

Airbedane

Something else he won't tell you - he's presenting the prizes at the British Model Flying Association's Indoor Scale Championships at Nottingham University next Sunday (25th April). Be there, it's an enjoyable day with museum class scale models in free flight in the sports hall.

Conc 18th Apr 2004 14:47

dde0apb

The Hawk Speed Six is booked in for G-VFWE, see you there

Hairyplane 23rd Apr 2004 07:46

OW Training Week
 
Thank you Airbedane for the best weeks flying ever.

Imagine if you will guys the image of two Maggies wheeling around chasing each others tails - dogfighting in another name but serious training nevetheless.

Staying on the tail of another aircraft and maintaining separation during, shall we say 'spirited' manouvering (you sure have the measure of the Maggie AB!), is a fantastic way in which to sharpen your stick and rudder skills. You cant help but imagine what it was like when the guy behind you have guns and wanted to kill you - the adrenalin pumps enough when you are doing it for fun!

A pleasure indeed to watch my aircraft being displayed by the professionals - delighted to be invited to do it myself.

04 promises to be a wonderful season at Old Warden - the new development there is just great, the catering has improved beyond all recognition.

I reckon we'll bust all previous attendance records this year.

On the acquisition front....a seriously good chance of my acquiring a third vintage aircraft in 05 (maybe sooner if something I really fancy crops up) - maybe a Storch if I can find one but maybe another Miles type if something that really blows my frock up is offered.

A collection of several Miles types would be fantastic and also a nice legacy to pass on (beats the park bench any day!) - the dream may just become a reality......

Looking forward to the Indoor Models at Nottingham Uni Sports Hall on Sunday. These creations have to be seen to be believed.

Rumour has it that we are going to see a small electric powered Messerschmitt Gigant - all 6 motors powered and also timed.

The intention is to put it down, walk away, it then starts up all by itself, takes off, shuts down and lands - all free flight!

This event is a must - a 'cheap as chips' day out.

B there or B square.

HP

Airbedane 6th May 2004 11:46

You're more than welcome, Hairy, but remember, you only get out what you put in......so we still owe you some!

Stop Press: Sir John Allison's Gemini is now at Old Warden, and hopefully should join us in the next airshow on 15th May.

A

JDK 6th May 2004 12:22

Do the engines and props stay with the a/c throughout the flights now? ;)

dde0apb 12th May 2004 05:49

1944 Advertising
 
Thought you'd all enjoy this (it's a Monarch)

http://www.beney.org.uk/personal/mil...onarch-ad1.jpg

dde0apb 17th May 2004 08:17

G-VFWE
 
There's a great series of pictures on the Flyer Magazine forum at http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=6113&start=45 including some Miles types, from the Great Vintage Fly-in at Abingdon last weekend

Adrian

ozplane 19th May 2004 11:21

Quick query re the G-VFWE. Did you manage to break your record of 9 Miles types in one place? I was there on Saturday in my Airtourer and there were 4 of us which is the best we've had for some years and I just wondered how you got on. Isn't the Hawk restoration absolutely beautiful, indeed all of the Miles types are a credit to their owners and operators.

Hairyplane 20th May 2004 13:50

G-VFWE
 
Nothing like I'm afraid. I cant understand why Sunday was so quiet on such a wonderful day. I dont know the sums but heard that only 300 or so aircraft turned up out of 700 pre-booked.

Thank you for your kind words on the aircraft. My Magister & Falcon consume large quantities of cash to keep flying - you really have to have a sense of humour when the bills arrive...

Lets keep our fingers crossed for a record next year.

VBR

HP

atb1943 7th Jan 2006 09:55

Re: MMMmmmiles Aircraft
 
Hallo Miles people!

Next year came and went.

Anything special on the cards for 2006?

I spoke to a contact at THK last year about Turkish production of Hawk Trainers, but it was all by telephone and not particularly revealing. It seems there are none left even in museums. Did seem however to confirm that for some reason they were built with materials supplied by Germany.

Happy Landings all!

atb

Stampe 7th Jan 2006 16:15

Re: MMMmmmiles Aircraft
 
The big event for Miles enthusiasts has to be the great vintage weekend at Keevil may 26-29th this year.Lets hope the weather is better than Hullavington last year.I am booked to fly one of hairyplanes collection tothis event ,quite the best event of the year in my opinion.See you there hopefully.:ok:


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