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tdracer 19th Apr 2022 23:14

Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum Collection Sold
 
Some really bad news - at least for this geographic area.
Paul Allen's sister has reportedly sold the entire Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum (FHCAM) collection (the museum was located at Paine Field here in Everett - took my wife's sister there a few years back and it was a truly incredible collection).
It's been closed since April 2020, allegedly due to the Covid shutdown, but hasn't reopened. Sounds like it never will - sure will be missed. All the aircraft in the collection were reportedly flight worthy, and pre-Covid it was common on nice summer days to see several old warbirds plying the sky around here. Most of the Armor was also operable, and they would have occasional special events where they'd drive them around.
Paul Allen’s Museum Aircraft Collection Reported Sold - PP (planeandpilotmag.com)


Air Classics is reporting that the incredible warbird collection of the late Paul G. Allen, co-founder of Microsoft, has been sold by his estate and that the assets are being prepared for a “cross-country” relocation to a new owner.
I've been hoping that Paul Allen's sister would respect Paul's legacy and leave FHCAM alone as a memorial to her late brother, but apparently that's not the case. Assuming it doesn't end up in some private collection that's closed to the public, some other area is going to get a huge benefit while the Everett area is getting shafted.



India Four Two 20th Apr 2022 04:13

That's terrible news. I've been there twice in the last five years, including one visit where they had a Luftwaffe fly-by.

A wonderful museum, with nearly every aircraft flyable, as evidenced by the drip-trays under the engines. The only non-flyable exhibits I saw were the V1, V2 and Me 163 Komet, which was understandable.

During my last visit, they were re-building a Stuka.


Pypard 20th Apr 2022 06:24

Now owned by Wal-Mart boss Steuart Walton.

Less Hair 20th Apr 2022 07:15

It's good to keep most of the collection at a single place. And it's good to have an owner who keeps them airworthy. Still sad for Everett to lose it. I have been to their early place at Arlington. Their restoration quality blows your mind.

Asturias56 20th Apr 2022 07:53

Better than dispersing it via Sotheby's I guess

tdracer 21st Apr 2022 00:18


Originally Posted by Pypard (Post 11218212)
Now owned by Wal-Mart boss Steuart Walton.

So probably going to Arkansas. :mad: I was hoping it would end up somewhere that I'd like to visit anyway. I'm hoping against hope they'll open it up for a few days/weeks before they ship it off, but I seriously doubt there is much chance of that happening.

India Four Two 21st Apr 2022 01:13

Any chance of a massed-formation from Washington to Arkansas? That would be a sight to see!

Asturias56 21st Apr 2022 07:36

"So probably going to Arkansas"

There are worse places................................ admittedly not easy to get to from much of the USA tho'

Less Hair 21st Apr 2022 08:11

He has a nice airport. It would be great to have a bigger museum there.

GeeRam 21st Apr 2022 10:45


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11218742)
He has a nice airport. It would be great to have a bigger museum there.

I hope they build well, given its pretty much centre of tornado alley!

We don't yet know what the ownership structure is though, as while Steuart Walton is the name being branded about because of his ownership of 2 x P51's and a Corsair, he personally doesn't have the wealth to have bought it without money coming from his father (and or other members of the Walton family).
Steuart Walton isn't the boss of Walmart either, although he is a director, and he doesn't even appear on the Forbes rich list (only worth about $300m) unlike his father Jim that is the richest of the Walton family and one of the 20 richest people in the world, worth some $66bn.
The rumour is the entire collection sold for a 9 figure sum, so clearly he's not in a personal position to buy it, but was probably the person involved in the purchase on behalf of the family or more likely the chartible organisation set up by the family to buy and run the collection.

Asturias56 22nd Apr 2022 07:27

Winthrop Rockefellers Car Museum is in Arkansas - a beautiful place TBH

https://www.museumofautos.com/about-us

Less Hair 22nd Apr 2022 09:59

How about Thaden field?

bafanguy 22nd Apr 2022 11:05


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11218730)
"So probably going to Arkansas"

There are worse places................................ admittedly not easy to get to from much of the USA tho'

Well, it's rumored that Arkansas has paved roads and an airport.

Asturias56 22nd Apr 2022 11:29

In places.... but there are some weird corners up in the hills.............

GeeRam 22nd Apr 2022 18:58


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11219332)
How about Thaden field?

Would seem to be the logical destination.

bafanguy 22nd Apr 2022 21:28


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11219392)
In places.... but there are some weird corners up in the hills.............

There are "...some weird corners up in the hills..." of every country. Arkansas gave the world Clinton, Inc. I try not to blame the people of Arkansas but I'm not always successful.

Asturias56 23rd Apr 2022 07:54

In my experience the corners are bit weirder in W Arkansas/ SE Oklahoma than most places............... tho there are parts of Maine that run them close

Interesting about the Clinton's tho' - long before he ran for President there was vocal local opinion (and not all Republicans) that:-

a) they were going places b) they were economical with the truth c) he could charm anyone, anytime and d) she was the brains of the outfit

I can clearly remember hearing someone bang on about them when he starting manoeuvring to be Governor about 77-78

tdracer 5th Aug 2022 02:44

Wow! News reports today that, while it's true the Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum (FHCAM) collection was sold to a heir of the Walmart founder, it turns out that he plans to leave it right here in Everett. The museum has been closed for the past 2 1/2 years due mainly to Covid, but according to the news reports, the new owner intends to keep the collection intact, in place, and reopen the museum. This is hugely good news!

Walmart heir acquires Everett’s Flying Heritage Museum from Paul Allen’s estate | The Seattle Times

A grandson and heir of Walmart founder Sam Walton has purchased the late Paul Allen’s collection of vintage warplanes and armored tanks housed at the Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum at Paine Field in Everett.

Rumors have circulated in recent months that the collection could be moved to Walmart’s home state of Arkansas, but that’s not happening. The museum will stay in Everett.

Steuart Walton, 40, who sits on the boards of both Walmart and the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, will take over stewardship of the collection from Microsoft billionaire Allen’s estate.

Asturias56 5th Aug 2022 07:34

Good news!! :ok:

Spooky 2 5th Aug 2022 20:28

The degree of restoration was in many cases beyond the original configuration when leaving the factory. In the case of his P51 he actually recreated the inked stamps that were used in liu of stencils during construction The thought being that the war time construction could not adjust to the time necessary to use paint and stencils to mark up spots on the airframe that needed attention, and it would be faster to just stamp the item as opposed to painting it on as might have dome during a more conventiional restoration. There was B17 that was in the initial stages of restoration up at Arlington that was believed to be the last, and only B17 that was built by Boeing in Seattle. All other existing B17's that are either flying or on display were built under contract outside of Boeing, Seattle.

I always thought is interesting in that as strong as his interest in this facet of aviation, Paul Allen never flew in any of his warbirds. He also owned an Alpha Jet, and partnered in a F5B which were kept in a state of the art 100,000 foot hangar at Boeing Field. Both of these aircraft were absolutely beautiful and flown regularly by pilots who were employed as corporate pilots.

Unfortunately in may cases he overpaid for many of his warbird finds due to some less than honest brokers working on his behalf.


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