The "oft overshadowed" Lancaster?
There's an American fellow who has a fabulous podcast series on his YouTube channel where he interviews military pilots. I'm not able to post the link, but you may know of it -- it's a great channel.
His episode 110 from August last year features the Lancaster -- good stuff. But it is described as the "oft overshadowed Avro Lancaster". Overshadowed? Really? Really? I know there were lots of important bombers during WWII, but to my mind at least the Lancaster is *the* most iconic WWII bomber of them all. What does everyone else think? |
Here's the link:
https://www.fighterpilotpodcast.com/...vro-lancaster/ Given that the podcast is American and aimed at American listeners, I think the "oft overshadowed" comment is not particularly surprising. I agree with AnotherFSO - it's a great channel. I recommend 125 on the Buccaneer, 132 on the Lightning and 133 on the Jaguar. |
The Americans may reckon the B-17 as the foremost. Our most overshadowed is the Hurricane.
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There is a tendency to title YouTube videos, "The forgotten..." or "The xxx that no-one's heard of". It's a form of clickbait for some I'm sure, but for me it's an instant pass.
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The Lancaster mostly flew at night. Therefore, no shadows!
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Dab has the best answer but if its US media then the B17 is The WW2 bomber and then the B29 due to A bomb fame., although IIRC there were more B24 Libs built than B17s . The only Brit plane they have heard of is the Spitfire which was rather like David Beckham of fighters , looked great and got all the glory in Battle Britain while the Hurricanes did most of the work.. Thats not to demean the Spit which was a brilliant deign and wonderfully adaptable but still heavily outnumbered by Hurricanes i think in 1940
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Originally Posted by PAXboy
(Post 11200826)
The Americans may reckon the B-17 as the foremost.
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In fairness, if it's an American point of view then it's to be expected and we probably have similar biases
Having said that, operating at night doesn't make for great theatre, whereas colour photos and films of huge box formations of B17s with all the contrails behind them, and the combat footage to go with them does Plus let's face it, the B17 looks like a film star, which is not to take anything away from the Lancaster, but in some cases looks count as much or more than capability (think your secretary and your wife) |
Originally Posted by Sue Vêtements
(Post 11201112)
In fairness, if it's an American point of view then it's to be expected and we probably have similar biases
Having said that, operating at night doesn't make for great theatre, whereas colour photos and films of huge box formations of B17s with all the contrails behind them, and the combat footage to go with them does Plus let's face it, the B17 looks like a film star, which is not to take anything away from the Lancaster, but in some cases looks count as much or more than capability (think your secretary and your wife) |
Don't forget the RAFs use of the B17 C was deemed a failure.
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Originally Posted by rolling20
(Post 11203066)
Don't forget the RAFs use of the B17 C was deemed a failure.
Can you image a whole wing of them flying overhead? |
"Plus let's face it, the B17 looks like a film star"
Boris Karloff? - the B-29 is stunning but the -17? bits sticking out all over the shop. The Lancaster looks like a garden shed, the Whitley ...clearly someone got something wrong, the Liberator looks like a door man in Newcastle Bigg Market on a Saturday night........... The He111 looked good tho' |
Originally Posted by rolling20
(Post 11203066)
Don't forget the RAFs use of the B17 C was deemed a failure.
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Originally Posted by Load Toad
(Post 11203862)
No, it wasn't suitable in that version for what RAF Bomber Command wanted (flying higher, at night). Other versions did perfectly OK in electronic warfare and air sea rescue and meteorological service. They were also perfectly OK for Coastal Command.
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The Lancaster looks like a garden shed |
Originally Posted by DHfan
(Post 11203867)
So - no good as a bomber, which is what it was supposed to be.
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Originally Posted by Load Toad
(Post 11203946)
No, Not good as a bomber in the roll the RAF wanted a bomber to operate in; night flying, at height...not part of self protecting combat boxes flying at lower levels during daylight which the RAF had decided wasn't practical
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Originally Posted by rolling20
(Post 11203968)
.....The RAF used the Fortress for high altitude DAYLIGHT bombing and it was a dismal failure.
The remaining B-17s were passed to Coastal Command. |
Originally Posted by rolling20
(Post 11203968)
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. The RAF used the Fortress for high altitude DAYLIGHT bombing and it was a dismal failure.
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The RAF used the Fortress for high altitude DAYLIGHT bombing and it was a dismal failure |
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