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Mooncrest 18th Jun 2021 19:30

Aer Lingus BAC1-11s. What routes did they perform ?
 
A niche fleet of just four identical aircraft for over twenty years. I'm sure Aer Lingus could have had more if they wanted but, evidently, four was the magic number. Initially, a little more than the Viscount 800 capacity-wise and then slotting in between the Viscount and the 737-200. The 1-11 turned up frequently at Leeds Bradford on the Dublin flights (along with the 737) and I believe was also used on the fifth freedom trips from Dublin to Copenhagen, Milan etc., staging through Manchester on the way. Aer Lingus must have been very satisfied with their four pocket rockets to have operated them for so long but I guess there was more to the fleet than what I've mentioned.

42psi 18th Jun 2021 20:57

Only fifth freedom flight they regularly operated was the Hamburg.

dixi188 18th Jun 2021 21:02

I remember being in Dublin soon after the 1-11s went to Nigeria and talking to one of the Aer Lingus engineers. He was a bit cross and said, "we never put a scratch any of them in 20 years and the F***ing ***s have written off one and damaged another within months.

kcockayne 18th Jun 2021 21:03

The 1-11s operated the summer schedule Dublin to Jersey service for many years. The first I remember of them was, however, operating inclusive tour services from Dublin to several Spanish destinations at weekends. Later on, 1974, I flew Edinburgh to Dublin return on two of them.

Consol 18th Jun 2021 21:39


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 11064434)
I remember being in Dublin soon after the 1-11s went to Nigeria and talking to one of the Aer Lingus engineers. He was a bit cross and said, "we never put a scratch any of them in 20 years and the F***ing ***s have written off one and damaged another within months.

Yes but even worse. EI operated them for 24 years (65-89). Kept all four intact. I understand that three out of four were written off within eighteen months of going to Nigeria.
Flew back from LGW in one in '88.

SpringHeeledJack 19th Jun 2021 06:00

That must have been almost heart breaking for the EI engineers who looked after them for all those years. Just an aluminium tube etc, but yet so much more. I remember seeing some photos only a few years ago of quite a few 1-11's parked together, covered in a thick layer of gunk somewhere in Nigeria, perhaps Kano (?) or Lagos. Might one of those have been the remaining EI cohort, or were these ROMBAC examples ?

DaveReidUK 19th Jun 2021 06:43


Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack (Post 11064581)
That must have been almost heart breaking for the EI engineers who looked after them for all those years. Just an aluminium tube etc, but yet so much more. I remember seeing some photos only a few years ago of quite a few 1-11's parked together, covered in a thick layer of gunk somewhere in Nigeria, perhaps Kano (?) or Lagos. Might one of those have been the remaining EI cohort, or were these ROMBAC examples ?

Three of the four ended up at Kaduna, one being written off after it skidded off the runway there in August 1992.

The fourth was scrapped at Southend.

bar none 19th Jun 2021 11:33


Originally Posted by 42psi (Post 11064431)
Only fifth freedom flight they regularly operated was the Hamburg.

They operated fifth freedom flights from Man to Zrh, Bru, Cph, Fra, Dus and Ams replacing Viscounts. I don't think they ever did Ham and Lin.

Geezers of Nazareth 19th Jun 2021 12:53

I can remember seeing Aer Lingus BAC1-11 in Heathrow in the early 70s. It always seemed to be on a Sunday afternoon, and I think it was a flight from/to Cork.

Mr Mac 19th Jun 2021 14:41

I remember seeing Aer Lingus Leeds Bradford to Dublin before the runway extension, used to look like a Cat shot
Cheers
Mr Mac

DH106 19th Jun 2021 15:29

If I remember rightly in the late 70's/early 80's, Aer Lingus usually scheduled a 1-11 on their Sunday LBA-Dublin slot, with the 737-200 operating the same several times mid-week.
The 1-11 certainly seemed much noiser departing R15 from the Scotland Lane estate!

42psi 19th Jun 2021 16:34


Originally Posted by bar none (Post 11064722)
They operated fifth freedom flights from Man to Zrh, Bru, Cph, Fra, Dus and Ams replacing Viscounts. I don't think they ever did Ham and Lin.

Ahh, that was the "original" 5th freedom routes.

I was thinking of the later 1988 onwards ones :)

moleytt 20th Jun 2021 08:35

When I was in my teens, I fly on an Aer Lingus 1-11 from Liverpool (Speke) to Dublin for my Uncles wedding. I think this was my first ever flight on a plane.

L1649A 20th Jun 2021 14:09

Aer Lingus BAC1-11s
 
They also flew domestically. I had many pleasant flights DUB-SNN. Am I correct in thinking they had no reverse thrust ?? Landings always were pleasantly quiet (by today's standards).

Airbanda 20th Jun 2021 14:35


Originally Posted by L1649A (Post 11065202)
They also flew domestically. I had many pleasant flights DUB-SNN. Am I correct in thinking they had no reverse thrust ?? Landings always were pleasantly quiet (by today's standards).

I'm fairly sure they had reverse thrust but the reverser vanes were inside rather than the clamshell type on some other designs.

dixi188 20th Jun 2021 16:49

All 1-11s had reverse thrust with cascade vanes on top and underneath the aft section of the nacelle and clamshell doors inside.
Some operators used them quite vigorosly while others used reverse idle and more brakes.

Liffy 1M 20th Jun 2021 17:13

I would say that Aer Lingus 1-11s were used on most, if not all, European and on all UK routes from Dublin over their time in service with the carrier, though Aer Lingus's then network was limited by today's standards. Amsterdam, Brussels, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt and Zurich were amongst the scheduled destinations and places like Barcelona, Ibiza, Palma and Tarbes saw charter services. I also recall the type being used on a service from Belfast to Shannon (connecting with transatlantic services) amongst other non-Dublin routes.

Doors to Automatic 20th Jun 2021 20:17

They used to fly into Birmingham quite often in the late 1980s. I remember watching one landing on 33, touching down on the threshold markings and turning off onto the cross runway after a landing run of around 2000ft!

GAZIN 21st Jun 2021 09:12

I remember them operating to Dublin from STN in the late eighties, along with the 737-200’s.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5928755ce.jpeg

Repos 21st Jun 2021 11:32

EI-ANG - Snap, Shannon 1980
 
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9c43a27d10.jpg
From the roof terrace Shannon, 1980 I think


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