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Davef68 6th Apr 2021 11:13

Air Britain did a book on it (The Washington File), albeit only 36 pages - like most AB type books it's a history of the service of each individual airframe, with a selection of photos. It's been OOP since the 80s, but you can pick them up second hand

DH106 6th Apr 2021 13:17

There's 3 copies listed on AbeBooks.com

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sea...+Britain&isbn=

NickB 12th Apr 2021 17:41

I'm pretty sure BoB fighter pilot Geoff Wellum of 'First Light' fame flew RAF B-29s after WW2 - possibly on 192 Sqn...

Stan Evil 5th May 2021 16:55

An AEO I flew with on the Vulcan had flown on Washingtons. He said that coming back to base with all 4 engines still working was so rare that they made a certain number of 4-engine landings a BTR (monthly requirement)!

megan 6th May 2021 04:57

No B-29 story would be complete without mentioning Neil Armstrongs single engine landing. he was co-pilot on a trip to drop the D-558-2 research aircraft. Approaching 30,000' the #4 had a prop runaway which came off and sliced through #3, which lost throttle control and instrumentation so was shut down, #2 was also hit. #1 was shut down because of torque, even with just #2 running it required both pilots on the rudder, even at low power. The D-558 pilot asked not to be dropped because of fuel pressure control problems, but was dropped in any event, which was fortunate as the prop on its path to hitting #2 passed through the bomb bay where the 558 had been slung, also severing the command pilots pitch and roll controls. Neil was the only one with a full set of functioning aerodynamic controls.

ancientaviator62 6th May 2021 07:02

megan,
I seem to recall the pilot who requested not to be dropped was Bill Bridgeman who route to test flying was rather unusual.

megan 6th May 2021 12:03

aa62, Jack McKay was the D-558 pilot on the occasion.

ancientaviator62 6th May 2021 13:00

Megan,
thanks for the correction. My recall from Bridgeman's book was at fault although he did have a 'don't drop' drop ! Can anyone confirm or otherwise that the B29 engines as reverse engineered by the USSR were more reliable than the originals when fitted to the TU4 ?

ancientaviator62 6th May 2021 13:04

Megan,
thanks for the correction. My recall from Bridgeman's book was at fault although he did have a 'don't drop' drop ! Can anyone confirm or otherwise that the B29 engines as reverse engineered by the USSR were more reliable than the originals when fitted to the TU4 ?

Fitter2 6th May 2021 16:01

Einar Enevoldson (Nasa test pilot who held various time-to-height records in the rocket assisted F-104 that Yeager wrote off) told me he was once scheduled as the second 'warm body' to occupy the right hand seat of the B-52 dropping a lifting body as he was on that program, on the run -in for the drop the 'real pilot' was operating a variety on switches when a voice said 'OK then, goodbye' - their attached vehicle was no longer attached. Einar still holds the World glider gain-of-height record with Steve Fossett , his passing away last month is a great loss to aviation.

(Apologies for the thread creep).

megan 7th May 2021 03:32


Can anyone confirm or otherwise that the B29 engines as reverse engineered by the USSR
The engines were a local Russian development, though the turbochargers were reverse engineered from the R-3350.

esa-aardvark 8th May 2021 13:18

My father told me - wastegate sticks shut, engine overspeeds,
prop departs upward. Engine overspeeds some more. Engine departs.

DH106 8th May 2021 18:50


Originally Posted by esa-aardvark (Post 11041016)
My father told me - wastegate sticks shut, engine overspeeds,
prop departs upward. Engine overspeeds some more. Engine departs.

Props will be constant speed surely? Only overspeed if the CSU fails.

esa-aardvark 8th May 2021 19:00

DH - I have no idea, but he was a crew chief.

Sleeve Wing 14th May 2021 13:52

Bit late into this thread but was a bit confused by the title.
Surely the Washington was the B-50 and the B-29, the Superfortress. It certainly was when I was spotter in the middle 50s.
The main differences were increased fuselage length, of course bigger engines and a substantial increase to the size of the rudder.
I instructed with a chap who had flown them in the late 50s, who later converted on to Valiants at Gaydon.
Can somebody confirm or disprove ?

Thanks.

DH106 14th May 2021 16:05


Originally Posted by Sleeve Wing (Post 11044561)
Bit late into this thread but was a bit confused by the title.
Surely the Washington was the B-50 and the B-29, the Superfortress. It certainly was when I was spotter in the middle 50s.
The main differences were increased fuselage length, of course bigger engines and a substantial increase to the size of the rudder.
I instructed with a chap who had flown them in the late 50s, who later converted on to Valiants at Gaydon.
Can somebody confirm or disprove ?

Thanks.

Did the RAF have B-50s?
I thought they just had the B-29s as Washingtons.

cavuman1 14th May 2021 22:11

Sleeve Wing, here's a photograph of the B-50D Washington, a follow-on to the B-29 Superfortress. Note the nacelle modifications, underwing tanks, and vertical stabilizer height increase:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fbe718d5b5.jpg

- Ed

megan 15th May 2021 04:04

Sleeve Wing, the USA was the only operator of the B-50, they did deploy to the UK though. The Washington was the name given to the B-29 when in service with the RAF. Both the B-29 and B-50 were called the Superfortress by the USA.

chevvron 15th May 2021 09:01


Originally Posted by megan (Post 11044881)
Sleeve Wing, the USA was the only operator of the B-50, they did deploy to the UK though. The Washington was the name given to the B-29 when in service with the RAF. Both the B-29 and B-50 were called the Superfortress by the USA.

Every flying display in which the USAF participated in the UK up to the early '60s would include a KB50J towing an F100, F101 and RB66.


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