Bae 146 at Carlisle
 

Have you got a registration?

G-SCHH. I'm looking for a photo of the aircraft at Carlisle.

Thanks!!

Aah the Far East tour aeroplane of 1982! I remember it well and have photos of it, but only from the tour so no help I'm afraid.

Allan, thanks anyway!!👍

I assume that you have seen these on the web; for info.
https://www.jetphotos.com/registration/G-SCHH
https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/G-SCHH
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Dan-...46-100/1212906 In the snow

Newcastle ?

G-SCHH with RAF roundels, thats one for the logbook.

Also a vague recollection that this aircraft, in Dan Air colours, conducted waterslpash trials at Cranfield

Not relevant to the thread but I notice the pennants on the tailfins are quite different, something which used to happen quite a lot with Dan-Air. I wonder if it was by design or an unintentional consequence of using more than one paintshop? It was the same with BMA aircraft in the 70s and early 80s but I think their tailfins were all painted in-house by the same man!

Yes, got lots of pics of the fleet. I started my flying at Carlisle hence the request for a photo of G-SCHH at the airfield.

Regarding your thoughts about the paintshop, I think Dan used several venues. I took an aircraft from Lasham to Southend to be repainted. Lasham was a large engineering base for us. Strange logic.

Would it be rude to say RTFQ?

there was an interesting comment recently on either the BAC 1-11 face book page or the Dan air page from one of the engineers saying how Fred Newman b^llcked them for rushing the paint job and each aircraft looking different!

Thanks. Unfortunately no joy on my search. I ran the registration on Flickr.

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=G-SCHH

No luck either on an EGNC (Carlisle) search

Thanks to all for their efforts.

Must have been lots of delays that day, bussing pax from ncl to cax

In March 1991 I got to fly in the jump seat NCL-LGW-NCL on G-SCHH minor coincidence!

If you were still there then I have a question . if I remember correctly once Braathens took over the Norway routes and Air UK the AMS route from NCL that only left LGW and that was changed to a 1-11 rather than the 2 based 146’s. So what happened to the based 146 crews??

on the charter side NCL was great for Dan Air in 91, 92 with 3 x 737-400’s (1 727-200 in 91) but scheduled was in the decline (perhaps even the based 748 had moved on by this point too) so always wondered....

Having checked my log book I didn't operate a NCL-LGW-NCL in March 1991 so it wasn't me!

The 146s and crews were moved to LGW. Again, having looked at my log book I was still operating the odd LGW in June 1992 and the odd NCL-MME-AMS-LGW and return during June. If memory serves me correctly the 1-11s became part of the operation to NCL as you mentioned. The 146s were heavily involved with Berne, Innsbruck and Chambery (winter) from Gatwick and we also spent quite a lot of time in Berlin.

Having finally sold our home in the North East and bought a new one in Sussex I was made redundant three weeks after my new mortgage started. 😠

Apart from that they were great days!

I know I flew on G-SCHH either to or from Dublin in August '86, ex Gatwick. 'KMN was the reciprocal...

I’m probably heading off at a tangent here but surely this kind of event would have been a big deal for “Sleepy Hollow” international.

Have you tried the local paper to see if it was reported/photographed or contacted the tower to see if anybody has any photos? Sometimes people may know “old Jack* the controller from way back when.

DD

*names changed to protect the innocent!

I emailed the local paper (Times and Star) but the silence is deafening!

However, it may be worth trying ATC......I'll give them a ring. That name actually rings a bell!

Thanks, really interesting (except the consequences of Dan’s demise).

Sounds like it was a great company to work for (per facebook group). As a youngster used to mainly go on intasun holidays and therefore fly Dan air from NCL while living on the flight path saw their varied fleet at everyday - and that’s where my (strange) fascination started!

First noted a Dan-Air 146, one of the original small series 100 ones, in the early 1980s at, of all places, Palma. Did they run them economically on holiday charters as well ? I noticed it a couple of hours later at Gatwick, that seemed a decidedly odd route for a 146.

Dan-Air 146s used to fly to Palma - maybe other Spanish destinations too - from Teesside. I doubt they could manage much further than that.

The 146 -100 series positioned from Newcastle to Teesside on Friday evenings and operated various holiday routes from Teesside to the Mediterranean throughout the weekend. It then positioned back to Newcastle in time for the Monday morning scheduled services. It also operated Mediterranean flights from Gatwick (including Palma).
One great waste of time which was tried for a very short period was a Glasgow Palma. They limited the passengers to 70 (from 89 on the 100) so that we could get the fuel on. That didn't last long.
Many thanks for all the suggestions particularly from Duchess Driver. I got a photo from the Solway Aviation Museum through the General Manager at Carlisle Airport👍

May we see it please ?

Why? Considering all he got was "I Googled it" or answers that had nothing to do with the original question - and then found it himself! - I doubt the OP feels the need to repay anything.

Given that the OP thanked everyone for their efforts (post #13) I suspect he/she isn't feeling as uncharitable as you are. :O

I think he was being gracious since no-one really helped.

I think everyone knows that! However it sparked interest in Dan air, his (or her) career and the 146! Would you have been happier with no responses or 100x “no, sorry wasn’t a carlisle that day”!!!

Ps quemerford the mme 146 went Pmi, alc, ibz, jer and gro/Bcn in its heigh day!

Blimey! The OP posed an obtuse question that probably didn't have many conduits to successfully be answered, other posters suggested avenues of possibility and even searched various databases without success. One suggested contacting the local newspaper (I'd have suggested this had it not already been done so). The OP used this route and it led them to success. Hurrah!

Having used Dan Air way too many times over the years, plus seeing them all the time at Gatwick and other (usually) European airports, I for one am interested in this thread. The OP owes no-one anything apart from a thankyou perhaps and they have done that. I'd still like to see the photo(s) ;-)

Jeee guys, get a life,
this is no way to end this nice thread in a quarrel.
Although we could not help him out directly it is clear that Grumpy has thanked us for our suggestions.

And I personally would like it if Grumpy can bring this thread to a closure by posting the photo
( if he is allowed by copyrights etc.)

Come on folks!!!
I was really humbled by the response to my request by the interest shown. It opened (in my opinion) some interesting comments about the past which by being part of pprune I assume we have a common interest.
I found the photo with suggestions from others and I am grateful as the day in question was almost 35 years ago. It is a relatively uninteresting picture but means something to me.
I will post the picture if the owner gives me the necessary permission. May take a day or two!
Enjoy your Sunday!!

I've had the need to go from London to various business meetings in this north Cumbria part of the world, it really is an inconvenient place to get to. Whitehaven is the worst, no practical train service which makes you tend to go by car, ending up taking a day each way just for the journey. Carlisle did at least have the London train, but that again is a long journey. Day return business trips are quite impractical. Newcastle airport is too far away. I always felt there must be the market for a London service from Carlisle. A 146 would have been too big, but I believe Scot Airways were looking at a Dornier 328 from London City; their 35 seater seemed to be the most practical.

Long ago Autair had a go with an HS748 at Luton-Blackpool-Carlisle-Dundee, linking three (possibly four) of the least likely airports in the country. Inevitably that didn't work out.

Colleague asked me the nearest airport to Whitehaven, served from London. I said Ronaldsway, showed him Google Maps said it was 50 miles away. Being slightly geographically illiterate, he then got timings from the travel agent until I forced him to look it up on the map ! I really should have let him go and book a rental car :) . With binoculars you can just about see an aircraft on approach there from the Whitehaven shoreline.

ahem!!!

As a pimple faced lad I was a spotter at Newcastle late 70’s early 80’s and remember the introduction of the Dan Air 146. Up until then we had the 1-11s, 748’s as regulars and 727’s as crew trainers. Comets would appear in the circuit as well but very infrequently. If memory serves, there was a Twin Otter in Dan Air Colours for a while.

Those were the days when the Maintenance area was “wide open” and remember once wandering around a Dan Air 1-11 in the hangar (G-ATPJ?) without much hassle.

The 146 will always have a special place in my heart, having seen the prototype on the ground at Hatfield not long after it was rolled out my mates were well envious. It was also the first aircraft I got to sit on the jump seat for (Newcastle - Glasgow - Amsterdam) with UKay and somewhere have pictures. It was that flight that made me consider the career change that led me to where I am now.

I try to find pictures of the aircraft I fly on the web - but thankfully this is much easier today as there are many more photographers about.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1b4d11276e.jpg
Reproduced with permission of Solway Aviation Museum

Thank you! Looks a tad foggy in the background which would fit with the reasons you were there that day.

I never realised the Carlisle runway had such a slope. :O

Re the twin otter, your memory is right operated by Metropolitan Airways I believe.