Originally Posted by Flightrider
(Post 10752468)
That said, and for the sake of balance, some of the British Island Airways One-Eleven 500 departures weren't an awful lot better back in those days.
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air spain
Originally Posted by cjhants
(Post 10752306)
May 1972 my second ever holiday flight from Luton with Air Spain on a DC8. Got on board and only about a third full. Flight deck then announced we were going to Gerona via Manchester where we were to pick up the remaining passengers. I thought it was great at the time to get an extra flight. Seemed like a great adventure at the time.
Seem to remember a red and yellow livery. Yes horrendous flights that always by the end of the weekend were running 12-24 hours late. Either Tech or ATC or both! Typical Saturday saw - one DC-8 ALC-LTN 11.00 12.00 LTN-QGN QGN-LTN 17.00 18.00 LTN-ALC ALC-LTN 00.40 Sunday 01.40 LTN-MAN-BCN-MAN-LTN 09.30 LTN-ALC Often or not, the delays got so bad we hit the Sunday Papers lol |
Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
(Post 10752359)
Anyone remember T.A.E. (Trabajos Aeros E.....)
I think they started with a C-54 then went to 2 or more DC-7C and finally DC-8 s. Photos much appreciated. David A sole new BAC 1-11, Caravelles with PW engines, and a selection of ''Holiday Liners'' DC-8's series 20 30 and 50. Aviaco had used Iberia Connies for IT's before getting their jets - One almost coming to grief at night in low-viz at LGW similar to Ariana, but the AO was coming in on 07 over Russ Hill. I think they got away with twigs and some wood in the flaps and gear. I think AO lost a Connie in the drink somewhere too. |
All this talk of "interesting" take off,s and indeed landings as well as actual crashes, just high lights how unsafe air travel still was then in relation to the number of flights undertaken. I remember all of the carriers mentioned and especially the Corando and DC8 operated by the Spanish carriers. I also have a look with nostalgia at the old one parked up next to the air force hanger at Palma when I am in there. It would be good to see it restored, even if just a paint job, but they did pour out some smoke. I flew on Swiss Air DC8 and Cornado and once on Iberia, but never on a Spanish registered one as far as I can remember other than the one Iberia flight. They were noisy and pumped a lot of smoke out but I do have a soft spot for them. My last flight in a DC8 was back in in 1989 when I hired two DC8 61 Freighters to move materials from Houston to Stanstead, and flew back in the cockpit on the jump seat, as I was in Houston at the time, and was due to head home anyway. You could do that back then with little documentation, and even went through crew channel at immigration. Happy memories.
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Originally Posted by lederhosen
(Post 10752366)
The landing in Dubrovnik was somewhat enlivened by the look on the face of the stewardess as we touched down as she was still pushing a trolley up the aisle.
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Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
(Post 10752359)
Anyone remember T.A.E. (Trabajos Aeros E.....)
I think they started with a C-54 then went to 2 or more DC-7C and finally DC-8 s. Photos much appreciated. David |
In the late 70's as a young teenager, I flew from Ringway to Palma Majorca on a Spantax DC-8 series 60. Always remember the generous spacing between the seats as if it was set up for long range flights, surprising really for a package holiday charter airline. I always liked the DC-8 and thought it was sleeker and much better looking aircraft than the Boeing 707. From memory CPAir DC-8's were one of the other regular operators into Manchester together with a KLM DC8 combi on Saturday mornings. I appreciate that this thread is about Spanish charters but must say what a smart and attractive colour scheme CPAir had! The return leg from Palma was by luck on a Spantax Convair Coronado, in fact two flew out that night to Manchester, the other covered a Britannia airways flight as the company were on strike. What I remember about the CV990 flight was the noticeable roar and noise as it belted down the runway. The whole aircraft rattled and shook like I have never experienced before. I knew even then I was fortunate to have a ride on this beast as I had never seen such a type in my years of plane spotting. Later on in life I read that the chief pilot of Spantax described the Coronado as "The Maserrati of the Skies'.
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Another Spanish airline I remember from the 90's was Centennial who operated MD80's into Gatwick, I think from Palma. They didn't last long.
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The Comet - 4C How's that for noise? |
I know that many of these airline's have already been mentioned but here's a list of the Spanish airline's that previously flew regular charter flights between the United Kingdom and Spanish destinations from 1960's onwards. I'm including IBERIA as they flew regular charters on behalf of several British tour operators.
Some of the listed airlines rebranded such as IBERWORLD into ORBEST. AVIACO was a wholly owned subsidiary of IBERIA. AIR EUROPA..Founded in 1986, still in operation AIR SPAIN.. Founded in 1965, ceased operations in 1975 AVIACO.. Founded in 1948, ceased operations in 1999 BCM AIRLINES..Founded in ?, ceased operations in ? CENTENNIAL AIRLINES..Founded in 1993, ceased operations in 1996 FUTURA INTERNATIONAL AIRWAYS.. Founded in 1989, ceased operations in 2008 GIRJET.. Founded in 2003, ceased operations in 2008 HISPANIA AIRWAYS.. Founded in 1982, ceased operations in 1989 HOLA AIRLINES.. Founded in 2002, ceased operations in 2010 IBERIA..Founded in 1927, still in operation IBERWORLD.. Founded in 1998, ceased operations in 2009 LINEAS AEREAS CANARIAS.. Founded in 1985, ceased operations in 1990 LTE INTERNATIONAL AIRWAYS.. Founded in 1987, ceased operations in 2008 MINT AIRWAYS.. Founded in 2009, ceased operations in 2012 NORT JET.. Founded in 1989, ceased operations in 1992 OASIS AIRLINES.. Founded in 1986, ceased operations in 1995 ORBEST ORIZONIA AIRLINES.. Founded in 2009, ceased operations in 2013 SPANAIR.. Founded in 1986, ceased operations in 2012 SPANTAX.. Founded in 1959, ceased operations in 1988 TAE-TRABAJOS AEREOS Y ENLACES.. Founded in 1966, ceased operations in 1981 THOMAS COOK AIRLINES BALEARICS.. Founded in 2017, still in operation for CONDOR TRANSEUROPA.. Founded in 1965, ceased operations in 1982 UNIVERSEAIR.. Founded in 1987, ceased operations in 1991 VIVA AIR.. Founded in 1988, ceased operations in 1999 I might have missed one or two, feel free to add if that's the case. |
Originally Posted by DanAir89
(Post 10752968)
Used to think stories like these were urban myths until we left Dubrovnik (by coincidence) with the safely demonstration in full swing and watched the crew scramble for their seats!
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SPANTAX has been discussed by many especially regarding their CV990's but no photos uploaded.
I thought that I would honour SPANTAX with a selection of photos of their aircraft. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....154e0e1478.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....77224a9c74.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d89b41af99.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8f61db7063.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fa763a7fa4.jpg SPANTAX revised their livery in 1981 to a more modern style. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....57d676dc06.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a02339f1de.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8b88a52243.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fa6aea661e.jpg |
Brilliant photos! I much prefer the old livery to the new, but then again I'm a fan of all the older liveries being displayed in retro planes these last few years.
The Coronado just has that look that makes it look dangerous (in a good way) and capable. Where were the above photos taken ? I thought northern Germany, but perhaps Scandinavia ? |
Looks like a 749 Connie behind the DC-6...?
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
(Post 10754259)
Looks like a 749 Connie behind the DC-6...?
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Spot on Lederhosen, I was distracted by the shapely fuselage behind!
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Originally Posted by Alsacienne
(Post 10753624)
I'll raise you ... the BAC I-11 ... could drown out my teacher's voice for several minutes on the first turn out of Ringway heading east! (And a real beauty to look at, squinting out of the window with head on one side!)
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The Captain on that CV880 was Danny Burke. Captain Danny had a storied history of ferrying various aircraft from all over the world. As a matter of fact he had recently typed in the AB340-500 which he flew regularly out of KLAS. The sad news is Captain Danny passed away earlier this winter. Great guy!
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Is that the private A340 that has been known to fly non stop from there to TLV?
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