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There is a difference of ten degrees in runway headings from when the first runway was laid until the replacement. The old runway has 04/22; the new runway has 03/wadda I write?---put a 2 and a 1 on it.
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
(Post 10740221)
There is a difference of ten degrees in runway headings from when the first runway was laid until the replacement. The old runway has 04/22; the new runway has 03/wadda I write?---put a 2 and a 1 on it.
My protractor still says 11°, though. :O |
Your protractor says true headings, runways magnetic.
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
(Post 10740323)
Your protractor says true headings, runways magnetic.
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Chetwynd .
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Ret BA/BY,did you ever get the Chippy you were looking for ,years ago...?
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Er, the difference between the true headings of two intersecting runways is the same as the difference between their respective magnetic headings, is it not? The old runway was marked 04, i.e. 040 degrees. The reciprocal was marked 22, i.e. 220 degrees. The new runway is marked 03, i.e. 030 degrees. The reciprocal should have been marked 21, i.e. 210 degrees. IT WAS MARKED 12. |
Fareastdriver, :} suppose the runway been oriented 02/20...
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Originally Posted by Fareastdriver
(Post 10740626)
The new runway is marked 03, i.e. 030 degrees. The reciprocal should have been marked 21, i.e. 210 degrees.
IT WAS MARKED 12. The whole point about a reciprocal runway heading is that you're approaching it in the opposite direction: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....360d637252.jpg Unless you're looking out of the back end of your helicopter as you cross the numbers. :O |
If you really read 12 you are likely to overshoot the runway!
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I agree with Portland John. Have done approaches there in the F4 and the Harrier, but I think to overshoot only. So fixed and rotary.
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Aaaaaaaargh. I fell for it.
SORRY Fareastdriver. |
Mildenhall is still active, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by sycamore
(Post 10740519)
Ret BA/BY,did you ever get the Chippy you were looking for ,years ago...?
Still looking but AFTER this CV tragedy. Do remember going into Chetwynd, circa 1966 in the Bell 47, Sioux and in the Whirlwind 10 particularly at night using three torches as VASI s ! ! Glorious grass airfield with wonderful mushroom crop !! |
RAF Spadeadam never had a runway !!
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Originally Posted by FantomZorbin
(Post 10739095)
I believe that Watton was being used by USAF until quite recently (within the last 5 years) for air-dropping.
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Originally Posted by SuperSkymaster
(Post 10743065)
Sculthorpe is still used most weekdays for USAF paradropping.
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Originally Posted by Pauljw
(Post 10741897)
RAF Spadeadam never had a runway !!
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As Yellow Sun has commented, RAF Stornoway on the Isle of Lewis should be included.
From 1960 to 1983, RAF Stornoway was home to No. 112 Signals Unit, an electronic countermeasures measurement and evaluation unit that measured multiple RF aspects of Handley Page Victor and Avro Vulcan bombers as they flew set courses. Although not the home base for any squadron, it remained an active airfield during this period. As a small sprog I lived there in the mid-sixties, eating the fresh fruit and veg flown in on Her Majesty's shilling! |
The late XV105,
Why? The airfield at Stornoway was Stornoway airport, nothing to do with the RAF. In later Cold War years there were plans to build a HAS complex there for 11 Group, but it came to nothing. |
Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 10743588)
The late XV105,
Why? The airfield at Stornoway was Stornoway airport, nothing to do with the RAF. In later Cold War years there were plans to build a HAS complex there for 11 Group, but it came to nothing. "During the height of the Cold War years Stornoway Airport was home to 112 S.U., an RAF Signals Unit" And the airfield at RAF Aldergrove was Belfast Airport! In fairness both Stornoway and Benbecula were regular C130 runs from Lyneham during the 70's. |
Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 10743588)
The late XV105,
Why? The airfield at Stornoway was Stornoway airport, nothing to do with the RAF. In later Cold War years there were plans to build a HAS complex there for 11 Group, but it came to nothing. |
I used to transit Stornoway in the early eighties with a S76A servicing a drillship in the Atlantic. The offshore alternate was Vaga, in the Faeroe Islands
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Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg
(Post 10743604)
In fairness both Stornoway and Benbecula were regular C130 runs from Lyneham during the 70's. The RAF mobile CRP radar was still in situ just north of the end of the runway but I wouldn't call it an RAF airfield even thought the RAF had a small section of the Army Officer's Mess bar to themselves (sampled that too). |
Originally Posted by chevvron
(Post 10743618)
Plus the BAC 1-11 XX919 from Farnborough visited Benbecula on 14 Apr 1977; I know because I was on it!
The RAF mobile CRP radar was still in situ just north of the end of the runway but I wouldn't call it an RAF airfield even thought the RAF had a small section of the Army Officer's Mess bar to themselves (sampled that too). |
Prince Charles' runway excursion was at Islay in a 146.
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 10743588)
The late XV105,
Why? The airfield at Stornoway was Stornoway airport, nothing to do with the RAF. In later Cold War years there were plans to build a HAS complex there for 11 Group, but it came to nothing. |
The late XV105,
I know we are sort of splitting hairs here, but Stornoway AIRPORT was opened as a civilian airport in 1937 and 112 SU only moved there in 1960. I know all about 112 SU as I was an occasional 'user' and when 112 SU were there the airport was owned, operated and managed by Highlands and Island Airports and their predecessors and successors as a civilian airfield. It was, I grant you, a forward operating base but that didn't mean it was an RAF airfield. 112 SU were in an enclave. |
Originally Posted by Phileas Fogg
(Post 10743643)
And was it Stornoway that HRH Big Ears or was it his Pop who did a 'naughty' whilst piloting a HS748 variant of Andover?
Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 10744000)
The late XV105,
I know we are sort of splitting hairs here, but Stornoway AIRPORT was opened as a civilian airport in 1937 and 112 SU only moved there in 1960. I know all about 112 SU as I was an occasional 'user' and when 112 SU were there the airport was owned, operated and managed by Highlands and Island Airports and their predecessors and successors as a civilian airfield. It was, I grant you, a forward operating base but that didn't mean it was an RAF airfield. 112 SU were in an enclave. Jack |
Templeton, Pembrokeshire runways were occasionally in use up until the late 70's. This was largely used as a satellite of Brawdy during exercises. Also I seem to remember the odd Hercules and occasionally by army choppers paying a visit often at night (SAS?). Runways are still marked on the OS maps.
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Army Air Corp Beavers (Flight 132) were based at RAF Old Sarum until September 1970 just qualifying OS as a Cold War Airfield??.
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But Old Sarum was grass
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Originally Posted by Hangar_9
(Post 10737894)
Dear PPRuNe population,
I'd like some help compiling a list: My interest is that of RAF / RN / AAC / USAF airfields (or any military), in the UK that were active and still open until circa. 1970. I'd like to create a comprehensive list of all airfields with a concrete or asphalt runway that were in use in any way at all. It could be a training field (i.e Oakington) through to front line (Leuchars). The emphasis is on a physical in-use hard runway at this location. ATC units / Runway Caravans etc. Based units not required. This is a research project about airfields themselves not the operating units. Imagine you could make an approach, land on a perfectly useable runway. My work so far: bold denotes still active as a Military airfield in 2020 Aberporth Abingdon Acklington Aldergrove Alconbury Ballkelly Barkston heath* Bassingbourn Bentwaters Benson* Binbrook Boscombe Down* Bovingdon Brawdy Brough Brize Norton* Bruntingthorpe Burtonwood Chalgrove* Chivenor* Church Fenton Colerne Conningsby* Coltishall Cosford* Cottesmore Cranfield Cranwell* Culdrose* Debden Dishforth* Driffield* Dunsfold Elvington Fairford Filton Finningley Ford Gaydon Greenham Common Honnington Hullavington Keevil Kemble Kinloss* Kirk Newton* Lakenheath* Lee on Solent Leconfield Leeming* Leuchars* Lindholme Linton on Ouse* Little Rissington Lossiemouth* Llanbedr Lyneham Machrihanish Manby Manston Marham* Merryfield* Middleton St. George Mildenhall Mona* North Luffenham Northolt* Oakington Odiham* Ouston Pershore Valley* Scampton* Sculthorpe* Shawbury* St Athan* St Mawgan* Stradishall Strubby Swinderby Syerston* Tarrant Rushton Ternhill* Thorney Island Thurleigh Topcliffe* Upper Heyford Upwood Warton Watton Waterbeach Waddington* Wattisham* West Freugh* West Raynham West Malling Weston Zoyland Wethersfield Wittering* Woodbridge Woodvale Wroughton Wymeswold Wyton Yeovilton* Have i missed any? |
Originally Posted by Pearly White
(Post 10748179)
Two I flew out of in 1970s: RAF Swanton Morley and RAF White Waltham. Both grassed trainng airfields.
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North Coates perhaps needs to be added to the list. From the late 1950s most of the airfield was home to Bloodhound launchers and radars, but it did have a hard runway which saw occasional use by Argosies in the early 1960s, and there was a Station Flight which had an Anson and a crew on the establishment.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10739469)
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d934f0e719.jpg Some of the location info is a bit iffy, but it's a mine of information nevertheless. What is particularly interesting is the airfield sketches and the runway extension considerations. In the 1960s we had a Secret Document that contained the same information. The document was declared obsolete in 1967 but we kept it as the OS maps of the time didn't show airfields. I think it was a 700 series SD and I suspect it formed the basis for this book. |
Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator
(Post 10750105)
I did on Page 1
My copy is extremely well-thumbed ! I see Amazon has a copy for £25, I think I paid about a fiver for mine. |
Originally Posted by DODGYOLDFART
(Post 10746569)
Templeton, Pembrokeshire runways were occasionally in use up until the late 70's. This was largely used as a satellite of Brawdy during exercises. Also I seem to remember the odd Hercules and occasionally by army choppers paying a visit often at night (SAS?).
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Jensdad
Ouston was certainly used up (until Acklington closed) for JP training - I did my first solo in a JP there in 1967, and NUAS and an AEF (No 11?) were still flying there in the early '70s. I can also confirm the use during Purple Victory in 1985 when on Chinooks. Of note the exercise was to rescue 'civilians' from a 'war torn country' and Ouston was designated as the FOB so everything was flown in by the Hercs and ourselves. IIRC, the army was by then in full control of the camp, and we - the exercise participants - were forbidden to use it, although for some reason 16 Div (our troops) did, We lived in our normal exercise/ops tents pitched alongside the runway the Hercs were taxying along all day and night. My Canadian co-pilot said it was the coldest he'd ever been - and that included the Arctic survival! (I now await the usual banter about hotel accommodation!) |
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