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Krystal n chips 10th Nov 2019 06:43

Berlin wall glider
 
Watching a programme about the Wall last night and was intrigued to learn one of the more innovative crossings was in a glider.

Now the programme showed a more contemporary type for obvious reasons, but I am curious if anybody knows the actual type that made this crossing please?

Getting a retrieve crew could have been a shade problematic if he'd made a field landing......

washoutt 10th Nov 2019 08:03

Also, how would a glider be put at a sufficient altitude to cross the wall?

PDR1 10th Nov 2019 08:46

Reminds me of the Pieniążek "Kukułka" - a homebuilt made using parts from a number of crashed gliders and the engine from a dead piper cub:

[img]http://www.muzeumlotnictwa.pl/katalo..._tytul/145.jpg[/img]

It was built to escape from Poland. It's quite a story (see The Story). I stumbled across it in the Kracow aviation museum.

PDR

chevvron 10th Nov 2019 10:06

Heard of someone using a microlight to cross the wall but not a glider.

dook 10th Nov 2019 10:11

There was a report that three men in 1989 used a hang glider to escape.

However, the glider was never found and the story is not believed by many people.

BDAttitude 10th Nov 2019 10:34


Originally Posted by Krystal n chips (Post 10615181)
Watching a programme about the Wall last night and was intrigued to learn one of the more innovative crossings was in a glider.

Now the programme showed a more contemporary type for obvious reasons, but I am curious if anybody knows the actual type that made this crossing please?

Getting a retrieve crew could have been a shade problematic if he'd made a field landing......

In the 70ies there were so plenty of them that the GDR prohibited sport flying for some time until they had installed the resources to snoop on the aviators and guard the airfields:
(Fixed Link)

However articles in the press seldomly mention the plane used. Here is one from 1979 I found.
SZD-30 "Pirat". This type is considered to be the Ka6 of the soviet zone.

Some more aviation related stuff:
Ikarus VOX II
The venerable AN2 of course
DIY hot air balloon
Engineer abducting a SU-7M. Not being trained on type, he decides on ejecting instead of trying to land.
Flight by highjacking
This guy was imprisoned before he could try his "experimental"

Nautically there are also have been a lot of intresting things going on.

Duchess_Driver 10th Nov 2019 10:49

Not necessarily Berlin, but east to west in a Balloon IIRC.

HarryMann 10th Nov 2019 18:26

Presumably got the idea from the Colditz Cock the escape glider the British designed and built in the attic. of Stalag xx.

Procrastinus 10th Nov 2019 19:16

And Bezak in a Zlin from East to West

NutLoose 11th Nov 2019 01:09


Originally Posted by Duchess_Driver (Post 10615322)
Not necessarily Berlin, but east to west in a Balloon IIRC.

Correct, made into a film staring John Hurt

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082810/

Krystal n chips 11th Nov 2019 06:50


Originally Posted by BDAttitude (Post 10615310)
In the 70ies there were so plenty of them that the GDR prohibited sport flying for some time until they had installed the resources to snoop on the aviators and guard the airfields:
(Fixed Link)

However articles in the press seldomly mention the plane used. Here is one from 1979 I found.
SZD-30 "Pirat". This type is considered to be the Ka6 of the soviet zone.

Some more aviation related stuff:
Ikarus VOX II
The venerable AN2 of course
DIY hot air balloon
Engineer abducting a SU-7M. Not being trained on type, he decides on ejecting instead of trying to land.
Flight by highjacking
This guy was imprisoned before he could try his "experimental"

Nautically there are also have been a lot of intresting things going on.

Thanks for all the replies :ok:

However, it's the quote above I found of particular interest.

I flew a Pirat, once !......and a contributor on here offered some "helpful advice " as I floated past the launch point It would be fair to say my preference would be a Ka6E or Ka6CR. Sorry about the digression.

I have to say this piece in the programme did attract my interest due to my involvement with gliding because so many factors had to be in his favour on the day. It wasn't exactly a cross- country flight where you can land in a field when the lift stops working.

The rest of the programme was equally interesting....and sobering viewing


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